Celebrating Pride Month: What is Your Favorite LGBT Story/Characters in Speculative Fiction (Canon Examples Only)

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Re: Celebrating Pride Month: What is Your Favorite LGBT Story/Characters in Speculative Fiction (Canon Examples Only)

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clearspira wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:57 am
Madner Kami wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:20 am I'd like to remind everyone, that even though we share a common place and interests, a lot of us had our formative years in very different places, in a world that was more particular and less well connected. Clearspira is a Brit and, as far as I know, a kid of the 80s and 90s like me. The culture we grew up was influenced by the american media, but we still had a way more independent local media which treated a lot of issues very differently, not to even talk of local culture.
This is not supposed to say that all was sunshine, roses and lollipops for LGBTQs hereabout, far from it, but gays in particular were a lot more present and accepted or at least tolerated (especially in the UK, Germany and France as well, hell, Eastern Germany opened state-owned gay-discos in the 80s...) than it seems to have been the case in the US.
Nail on the head. The problem here I think is that there are more Zoomers on this forum than there are of any other generation - they don't remember the 90s. They have gotten all of their information third hand from other people who also did not live through the 90s.

Britain did not care about LGBT in our media back then. I'll give you an example. One of the biggest storylines of the 90s on Coronation Street (a show that regularly got up to 20 million viewers in a country that barely had 60 million people in it) was Roy Cropper dating a woman named Hayley who turned out to be trans after they were dating. Were the fans full of rage at ''the entrapment'' or ''the evil trans monster'' or anything like that? No. it was ''will Roy find happiness?'' BTW, Hayley went on to become a main character in Corrie for the next decade.

Whilst this was going on over in Eastenders (again up to 20 million viewers) was the Mark fowler HIV storyline. Did the fans think ''dirty gay guy'' or did they think ''poor Mark I hope he gets better?'' *hint* it was the latter. I was there.

But I guess these huge shows watched by a third of the population weren't indicative of the British views towards LGBT people? I'm sorry that the US was this hotbed of homophobia I really am, but I remember a time when no one cared. And I think the only reason people care *oh so very very much* today is probably Americans projecting onto the rest of the world.
Mighty bold of you to assume there are more zoomers than other generations here. Wonder why you assume that.
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Re: Celebrating Pride Month: What is Your Favorite LGBT Story/Characters in Speculative Fiction (Canon Examples Only)

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I wasn’t sure if Xena and Gabrielle counted as canon or not.

I don’t think they were mentioned in this thread, but Agron and Nasir from Spartacus.
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