Captain Marvel: The MCU's First Failure?
Re: Captain Marvel: The MCU's First Failure?
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And the first post wasn't even about audience reviews, it was about opening predictions.
When all you have to hold onto is audience reviews that were heavily skewed by a bunch of trolls reviews bombing a film without having actually seen it, it's probably time to call it a day. This is no Ghostbusters '16.
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First of all, review bombing works BOTH WAYS. In fact, Disney/Marvel has the advantage here as its confirmed that companies like them hire agencies to review bomb RT for five star reviews.
Second of all, calling anyone with opinions that differ from yours a troll is a great way to advertise your mental illness.
Third, there is evidence to support that Disney or parties acting on their behalf purchased excess tickets and didn't show up for opening weekend. A few theaters mentioned that their theater was half full every every day opening weekend by THE EXACT SAME NUMBER when a headcount was taken despite being old out. statistically, this is not possible to be a fluke. Its not conclusive proof of shenanigans on Disney's behalf mind you, but still shady AF.
What is conclusive and confirmed is that Disney rigged the system by having Captain Marvel play on numerous screens causing their competition to be muscled out or reduced in playing power that weekend.
To me, its a movie and not an appealing one. Its star doesn't appeal to me, its politics are psychotic as is its hype machine. Seriously, what world do these people live in that this is the first movie ever to star a female lead in, what I think is intended to be in this case, a strong action leading role? Brie comes off as well, Brie. She's not strong, she's entitled. There's a difference. See Kill Bill, Alita, Edge of Tomorrow, or the Fast & the Furious movies for strong leading women.
If this movies success, more by crook than hook, is a victory for you, Hey, congratulations. For me, its mystifying and this weekends box office will be very telling of what comes next. I personally feel it would have been better for comics, geek culture, and society at large if it had flopped or underperformed, but dems the breaks.
Also, the future of the MCU will also be interesting. TLJ was also not very good and played many of the same politics and well. The fact that it WAS successful cannot be debated and that success was the definition of Pyrrhic as the SW franchise is barely registering in pop culture consciousness these days.
Will have to wait and see if the MCU goes down the same road. I'm not certain it will as the MCU doesn't have the same founding in multi-generation appeal that Star Wars does but we will wait and see. Star Wars has been passed on by the children of my generation to the following ones. The MCU is this generations baby, the generation of instant access to everything and the Tide Pops challenge. So it's supporting crowd is of a entirely different animal.
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What spectacular BS. Where is this 'proof' that Disney is buying its own tickets, rigs theatres or pays people to lave positive user reviews? This is getting sad.
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So I'm assuming they don't have GOOGLE or other search engines in your part of the world and you need others to look up facts for you before you argue them.
Either that or you're arguing because someone from the "other side" posted something and you can't refute a damn thing but you feel the need to argue anyway because fanaticism and tribalism are the mental illnesses of the western world it seems.
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So, you're saying you can't them? Or at least something from a reputable trade?
If, hypothetically, Disney was in the practice of paying off critics or threatening to take away access. Why, after so much tine, has no reliable whistleblower come forward? With all the critics and Disney employees out there?
[quote=MrL1992 post_id=41968 time=1552930162 user_id=2265]
[quote=MyUserName post_id=41607 time=1552727965 user_id=2163]
[quote="Makeshift Python" post_id=41424 time=1552658396 user_id=2198]
And the first post wasn't even about audience reviews, it was about opening predictions.
When all you have to hold onto is audience reviews that were heavily skewed by a bunch of trolls reviews bombing a film without having actually seen it, it's probably time to call it a day. This is no Ghostbusters '16.
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First of all, review bombing works BOTH WAYS. In fact, Disney/Marvel has the advantage here as its confirmed that companies like them hire agencies to review bomb RT for five star reviews.
Second of all, calling anyone with opinions that differ from yours a troll is a great way to advertise your mental illness.
Third, there is evidence to support that Disney or parties acting on their behalf purchased excess tickets and didn't show up for opening weekend. A few theaters mentioned that their theater was half full every every day opening weekend by THE EXACT SAME NUMBER when a headcount was taken despite being old out. statistically, this is not possible to be a fluke. Its not conclusive proof of shenanigans on Disney's behalf mind you, but still shady AF.
What is conclusive and confirmed is that Disney rigged the system by having Captain Marvel play on numerous screens causing their competition to be muscled out or reduced in playing power that weekend.
To me, its a movie and not an appealing one. Its star doesn't appeal to me, its politics are psychotic as is its hype machine. Seriously, what world do these people live in that this is the first movie ever to star a female lead in, what I think is intended to be in this case, a strong action leading role? Brie comes off as well, Brie. She's not strong, she's entitled. There's a difference. See Kill Bill, Alita, Edge of Tomorrow, or the Fast & the Furious movies for strong leading women.
If this movies success, more by crook than hook, is a victory for you, Hey, congratulations. For me, its mystifying and this weekends box office will be very telling of what comes next. I personally feel it would have been better for comics, geek culture, and society at large if it had flopped or underperformed, but dems the breaks.
Also, the future of the MCU will also be interesting. TLJ was also not very good and played many of the same politics and well. The fact that it WAS successful cannot be debated and that success was the definition of Pyrrhic as the SW franchise is barely registering in pop culture consciousness these days.
Will have to wait and see if the MCU goes down the same road. I'm not certain it will as the MCU doesn't have the same founding in multi-generation appeal that Star Wars does but we will wait and see. Star Wars has been passed on by the children of my generation to the following ones. The MCU is this generations baby, the generation of instant access to everything and the Tide Pops challenge. So it's supporting crowd is of a entirely different animal.
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What spectacular BS. Where is this 'proof' that Disney is buying its own tickets, rigs theatres or pays people to lave positive user reviews? This is getting sad.
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So I'm assuming they don't have GOOGLE or other search engines in your part of the world and you need others to look up facts for you before you argue them.
Either that or you're arguing because someone from the "other side" posted something and you can't refute a damn thing but you feel the need to argue anyway because fanaticism and tribalism are the mental illnesses of the western world it seems.
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So, you're saying you can't them? Or at least something from a reputable trade?
If, hypothetically, Disney was in the practice of paying off critics or threatening to take away access. Why, after so much tine, has no reliable whistleblower come forward? With all the critics and Disney employees out there?
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Re: Captain Marvel: The MCU's First Failure?
Again, do you not have google where you are? The articles I read and videos providing you with answers are available online, I refuse to argue with an impotent and illiterate troll who would rather spit venom online rather than better himself and his argument by partaking in some reading.
I expect your next post will at least be a more informed one, or you can expect me to ignore your idiocy. This form of blatant and impotent trolling bores me.
And for the love of god, LEARN how the quote function works.
I expect your next post will at least be a more informed one, or you can expect me to ignore your idiocy. This form of blatant and impotent trolling bores me.
And for the love of god, LEARN how the quote function works.
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You’re not helping your case. If you can’t understand that, maybe you should just google it.
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Re: Captain Marvel: The MCU's First Failure?
I didn't realize it was possible to diagnose impotency via an online forum.
Re: Captain Marvel: The MCU's First Failure?
Zoinksberg wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:03 pm I didn't realize it was possible to diagnose impotency via an online forum.
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I did, I found nothing.
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Re: Captain Marvel: The MCU's First Failure?
Huh this movie is failing so hard people are demanding we look up secondary sources to explain it's failure! =U
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Re: Captain Marvel: The MCU's First Failure?
Funny how angry YouTubers are the only “source” claiming CM’s performance was not good for Marvel/Disney. Kinda reminds me of similar accusations of another franchise...
Re: Captain Marvel: The MCU's First Failure?
A useful video by Dan from ScreenJunkies breaking down every single conspiracy theory mentioned in this thread. If you don't want to regurgitate the same rebuttals to every troll, out there, just respond with this link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPqUjaaiQcE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPqUjaaiQcE