Star Trek: Discovery - Season 4 (With Spoilers)
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery - Season 4 (With Spoilers)
Why haven't professional reviewers torn this show a new one? I've heard plenty of private complaints, but that's all.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery - Season 4 (With Spoilers)
Because Star Trek is now just another show.Frustration wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:54 pm Why haven't professional reviewers torn this show a new one? I've heard plenty of private complaints, but that's all.
We used to argue whether Star Trek or Star Wars was better. Now we argue which one is worse.
Re: Star Trek: Discovery - Season 4 (With Spoilers)
Because, frankly, it seems that most sci-fi shows have been forgotten lately (even the actually better ones barely get proper coverage), and most critics will focus on fantasy and superhero shows, because those are the ones that bring in more viewers, meaning more coverage, meaning more money.Frustration wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:54 pm Why haven't professional reviewers torn this show a new one? I've heard plenty of private complaints, but that's all.
As for Discovery, well, I have an impression that when something is just consistently bad, people just give up trying to review it and move on to better things. There is only so much one can waste their time nitpicking every single plot hole and bad writing before you end up with MauLer-sized long reviews, which tends to scare away viewers. Even RedLetterMedia gave up on Discovery and NuTrek.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery - Season 4 (With Spoilers)
Man, I really, really wish we had access to the actual viewership numbers of these shows. It would be priceless to know what their ratings actually are.
If lots of people really are consistently watching these shows? Then entertainment, as we have known it, is dead. All the traditional complaints about how the masses will watch garbage will actually be correct.
If lots of people really are consistently watching these shows? Then entertainment, as we have known it, is dead. All the traditional complaints about how the masses will watch garbage will actually be correct.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery - Season 4 (With Spoilers)
I do love the moon logic of "if no one is watching it that means Paramount knows it's crap and if lots of people are that means they have no taste."Frustration wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:32 pm Man, I really, really wish we had access to the actual viewership numbers of these shows. It would be priceless to know what their ratings actually are.
If lots of people really are consistently watching these shows? Then entertainment, as we have known it, is dead. All the traditional complaints about how the masses will watch garbage will actually be correct.
Heads I win, tails you lose.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery - Season 4 (With Spoilers)
No, it's lose-lose. If people aren't watching it then there's hope for entertainment in general, even though Star Trek is a casualty. But if people are, then the bottom has dropped out, and the majority of entertainment products in the future will be incoherent, badly-made garbage with nice effects.
It's sort of like choosing the form of the destructor, only we don't get to choose.
It's sort of like choosing the form of the destructor, only we don't get to choose.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery - Season 4 (With Spoilers)
Yeah, but that’s your opinion. Might as well just move on and enjoy something else for yourself. The ongoing existence of this show isn’t hurting you.Frustration wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:36 pm No, it's lose-lose. If people aren't watching it then there's hope for entertainment in general, even though Star Trek is a casualty. But if people are, then the bottom has dropped out, and the majority of entertainment products in the future will be incoherent, badly-made garbage with nice effects.
It's sort of like choosing the form of the destructor, only we don't get to choose.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery - Season 4 (With Spoilers)
Yes, it is! Every time I'm reminded it exists, I experience pain. Pain unlike any other form of pain. Maybe existential? Or aesthetic.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery - Season 4 (With Spoilers)
Hm. Maybe you should take some HeadOn.Frustration wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 7:42 pm Yes, it is! Every time I'm reminded it exists, I experience pain. Pain unlike any other form of pain. Maybe existential? Or aesthetic.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery - Season 4 (With Spoilers)
I feel like there's a kind of collective insanity going on in fandom that after a half-dozen spin offs and renewal for four seasons at massive special effects and production costs with no end in sight, there's people who are DESPERATELY hoping its somehow a mammoth failure.Frustration wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:32 pm Man, I really, really wish we had access to the actual viewership numbers of these shows. It would be priceless to know what their ratings actually are.
If lots of people really are consistently watching these shows? Then entertainment, as we have known it, is dead. All the traditional complaints about how the masses will watch garbage will actually be correct.