I did like Crisis Point II. But more about the concept of how of how Bromler went on his side quest.
Obviously as shown in the episode, the computer was randomly generating when he went on his side quest. I honestly would have thought that holodeck programs would be like RPGs so if it's not programmed it won't be in there. So no going off map so to speak.
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Holodecks can create fully sentient AIs at the drop of a hat, due to an offhand remark by TNG's time and that was when they were new and largely untested in the field.McAvoy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:42 am I did like Crisis Point II. But more about the concept of how of how Bromler went on his side quest.
Obviously as shown in the episode, the computer was randomly generating when he went on his side quest. I honestly would have thought that holodeck programs would be like RPGs so if it's not programmed it won't be in there. So no going off map so to speak.
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Yeah. All it took was a remark to beat another AI as sophisticated as Data to basically create a self aware AI. That did create alot of issues in itself.Madner Kami wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:19 amHolodecks can create fully sentient AIs at the drop of a hat, due to an offhand remark by TNG's time and that was when they were new and largely untested in the field.McAvoy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:42 am I did like Crisis Point II. But more about the concept of how of how Bromler went on his side quest.
Obviously as shown in the episode, the computer was randomly generating when he went on his side quest. I honestly would have thought that holodeck programs would be like RPGs so if it's not programmed it won't be in there. So no going off map so to speak.
Then we got Voyager with its Doctor too. It's one of those things where I wished the writers actually made a literal point for the Doctor to become from some super advanced medical program gojmg through its program med program to a real AI evolving being.
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It's either Mirror Boimler, an infiltration, a demonic split, or Boimler turns out to have potential as a space criminal terrorist.MightyDavidson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:30 am Kinda hoping that Peanut Hamper and Argimus combine to create a monster out of all the other imprisoned supercomputers, cause I like the idea of Fletcher's monster but I don't care to see Fletcher himself ever again. Also, twould seem Boimler's transporter clone was evil after all, judging by his laughter at the end of the show.
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Well William did throw Boimler under the bus to stay on the Titan, stealing Boimler's justly earned promotion in the process so I suppose it's not a surprise to discover he's shady. Though I'm hoping it's the infiltration thing myself.CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:18 pmIt's either Mirror Boimler, an infiltration, a demonic split, or Boimler turns out to have potential as a space criminal terrorist.MightyDavidson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:30 am Kinda hoping that Peanut Hamper and Argimus combine to create a monster out of all the other imprisoned supercomputers, cause I like the idea of Fletcher's monster but I don't care to see Fletcher himself ever again. Also, twould seem Boimler's transporter clone was evil after all, judging by his laughter at the end of the show.
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I mean it's possible that since then they've put in limiters specifically to prevent that from happening.Madner Kami wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:19 amHolodecks can create fully sentient AIs at the drop of a hat, due to an offhand remark by TNG's time and that was when they were new and largely untested in the field.McAvoy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:42 am I did like Crisis Point II. But more about the concept of how of how Bromler went on his side quest.
Obviously as shown in the episode, the computer was randomly generating when he went on his side quest. I honestly would have thought that holodeck programs would be like RPGs so if it's not programmed it won't be in there. So no going off map so to speak.
My crazy theory is that he's actually the transporter duplicate of mirror universe Boimler.MightyDavidson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:26 pm Well William did throw Boimler under the bus to stay on the Titan, stealing Boimler's justly earned promotion in the process so I suppose it's not a surprise to discover he's shady. Though I'm hoping it's the infiltration thing myself.
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I'm surprised nobody had anything to say about Episode Four. I absolutely loved seeing Boimler go feral.
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Oddly, the limiters are mentioned as a thing in the first issue of LOWER DECKS comic.
Its called "Moriarty" Protocols.
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I love Starbase 80 and would like to serve there. Who doesn’t love a good sandwich and bat brooming? They seem to be “Space New Jersey” and full of stoners (Which the Federation would have a lot of), working class New Joisery types, gluttons,. and substandard equipment but very happy to do their job. It also appears to be a waste management facility.
Carol Freeman really is a TERRIBLE captain and should have taken Kirk’s advice: never let them promote you past Commander where you are being a hardass and jerk won’t get you into trouble. Really, I find her continued status as a captain more baffling than Starbase 80.
Jennifer is an awful girlfriend and I believe this sets up the endgame Boimler/Mariner romance! Maybe Jennifer can be a better girlfriend to Ensign Barnes (they hooked up in the simulation after all). Still, a candle-based romance never lasts in Star Trek–see Doctor Crusher.
The news services in the 24th century is awful. I agree, it’d be nice if they were competent but its annoying that they had this treatment after Picard’s handling of them in Season One. What happened to the Fourth Estate in the future? Also, is it too much to wonder if she’s not just a generic news reporter but FNN is actually a descendant/company of CBS/Paramount in the 24th century?
So it’s 17 years after Season 1 of Star Trek: The Next Generation. Which means that it’s been at least a dozen years since Sisko disappeared. That sucks. Apparently, Sisko really was an absentee father despite Avery Brooks efforts.
I liked how passive aggressive the Onarans are to the Federation. It’s pretty clear they want nothing to do with the Federation and rightly so. Speaking of which, WHY do they blame Picard? It’s kind of weird because all he did was absolutely nothing. I also give kudos to how Freeman and Ransom both reacted to Picard’s action with, “What the HELL?” Which makes sense because even by the standards of the Prime Directive, that was an insane choice. I’ve always argued for “Symbiosis” that it wasn’t a Prime Directive violation since it was one warp capable species exploiting another. It’d be like saying that interfering in the Cardassians messing with the Bajorans.
It does strain credibility that these planets haven’t warranted a second visit in decades. Then again, it finally does remind us space is REALLY REALLY big.
I think “Project: Flyby:” has a lot of potential because I’ve really wondered about how various one shot planets have been doing over the past 30 years, including these particular two.
Carol Freeman really is a TERRIBLE captain and should have taken Kirk’s advice: never let them promote you past Commander where you are being a hardass and jerk won’t get you into trouble. Really, I find her continued status as a captain more baffling than Starbase 80.
Jennifer is an awful girlfriend and I believe this sets up the endgame Boimler/Mariner romance! Maybe Jennifer can be a better girlfriend to Ensign Barnes (they hooked up in the simulation after all). Still, a candle-based romance never lasts in Star Trek–see Doctor Crusher.
The news services in the 24th century is awful. I agree, it’d be nice if they were competent but its annoying that they had this treatment after Picard’s handling of them in Season One. What happened to the Fourth Estate in the future? Also, is it too much to wonder if she’s not just a generic news reporter but FNN is actually a descendant/company of CBS/Paramount in the 24th century?
So it’s 17 years after Season 1 of Star Trek: The Next Generation. Which means that it’s been at least a dozen years since Sisko disappeared. That sucks. Apparently, Sisko really was an absentee father despite Avery Brooks efforts.
I liked how passive aggressive the Onarans are to the Federation. It’s pretty clear they want nothing to do with the Federation and rightly so. Speaking of which, WHY do they blame Picard? It’s kind of weird because all he did was absolutely nothing. I also give kudos to how Freeman and Ransom both reacted to Picard’s action with, “What the HELL?” Which makes sense because even by the standards of the Prime Directive, that was an insane choice. I’ve always argued for “Symbiosis” that it wasn’t a Prime Directive violation since it was one warp capable species exploiting another. It’d be like saying that interfering in the Cardassians messing with the Bajorans.
It does strain credibility that these planets haven’t warranted a second visit in decades. Then again, it finally does remind us space is REALLY REALLY big.
I think “Project: Flyby:” has a lot of potential because I’ve really wondered about how various one shot planets have been doing over the past 30 years, including these particular two.
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Well given how poorly the crew, aside from Boimler, Tendi and Rutherford of course, treated Mariner I'm curious how they're going to get her back on the Cerritos next season. I mean sure the end of today's episode makes it clear that Freeman would have her back, but I can't imagine Mariner actually wanting to go back.
For that matter I'm imagining the attitude of Boimler, Tendi and Rutherford to their fellow shipmates is liable to get a bit chilly. Not likely enough for them to join Mariner in the field of exoarcheology of course but one imagines many folks on the Cerritos will be getting the silent treatment ESPECIALLY Jennifer.
For that matter I'm imagining the attitude of Boimler, Tendi and Rutherford to their fellow shipmates is liable to get a bit chilly. Not likely enough for them to join Mariner in the field of exoarcheology of course but one imagines many folks on the Cerritos will be getting the silent treatment ESPECIALLY Jennifer.