Okay first off you brought up those quoted phrases, including 'Final Solution'. So I don't think it is a stretch when you appear to be comparing the Maquis with Nazis. And I do not think it is necessarily imperialistic. And you think the tactically and strategic move of hitting your enemy when they are weakened is evil? Knock this from military factions to a school yard. The Cardassians were the playground bully. And the Maquis the little kid trying to fight back and usually losing. The Klingons (analogy begins to fade a bit here.) are teachers taking the bully to task. So the little kid tries to steal back some of his stolen stuff while the bully is distracted. That is the analogy. Grab what you can while they can't pummel you. It is not go bombard Cardassia Prime. And Eddington using a gas attack on a world that will make it uninhabitable to just cardassians . . . Mixed thoughts. to put it in perspective. He made it a leave or die. We don't have to fight you. That he could do that repeatedly was a major mistake. This is a weapon of mass destruction. And I would think even the Klingons would have turned on him for that. There are reasons powers sign treaties banning certain weapons. Once was bad. He could have hit every single one of the cardassian worlds. And the fact he did it once meant you could not deal with him. From the outside what he did was terrible.Yukaphile wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:34 pm And the Maquis were far from the "noble defenders of their homes" you paint them as. Everything I see points to the inevitable conclusion they were getting more extreme. Ironic you quote that given it came from a man who was a hypocrite in taking a stand from forcibly relocating people when he'd done that before. And you know what? Striking back when the Klingons were harassing the Cardassians really proves how much more extreme they'd gotten, because a far more pragmatic option wouldn't have been what they actually did. It would have been holding their ground rather than devolving into an imperialistic expansionist power. And I NEVER said the Maquis were Nazis. But I hate imperialism and expansionism. And that's the opposite of "not retreating," that's poisoning a planet to prepare it for conquest. Come on. They flat-out said in the episode it would leave the newly evacuated planets ripe for human colonization. Something Eddington confirmed when he said he wanted them to declare independence, and you just know the Cardassians would have born the brunt of that, and harshly. It was literally a "No Cardassians" policy at that time, and Eddington viewed even the civilians as beneath him. They can die and he won't bat an eyelash. That's despicable. And your analogy of the Vulcans vs. Romulans falls short. My whole point was the Maquis had changed from being a group of good people with legitimate reasons to fight for their homes to an imperialistic humanocentric empire under the leadership of Eddington.
Because he was escalating the stakes to an unreasonable degree! The Cardassians have every much right to settle there as the humans! Yet he became every bit the flaws they hated in the enemy. And I'm sorry, but look how the Maquis treated Kassidy as the ultimate proof to how warped they had become. They willingly sacrifice an ally to steal industrial replicators. She is a pawn in their plans. How can you defend people like that? They'd backstab you at the first opportunity!
And that's ALL he was, a good combat officer, nothing more.
You're being racist. We met many good Cardassians.
Sisko's solution to do the mirror to a maquis world? It balanced the equation. The colonists have no choice. Swap worlds and do it fast. And removing the weapons and the man that got and used them prevented the conflict from escalating. Eddington was great against ships. But the second he tried to use an 'easy' button. He effed up.
But the maquis as a whole are not Eddington.
Once he's made up his mind about something, there's no discussing it with him.
