Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power

[Frustration]

What if I told you I thought the visuals were lazy, ugly and cheap looking? What if I told you the music sounded generic and uninspiring?

I'd pity you, and hope that you got The Help You So Obviously Need (TM).

[McAvoy]

What if I told you I thought the visuals were lazy, ugly and cheap looking? What if I told you the music sounded generic and uninspiring?

I'd pity you, and hope that you got The Help You So Obviously Need (TM).

Right back at you.

[BBally81]

Some more update on Rings of Power viewership
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv ... 235233124/

[Lazerlike42]

Some more update on Rings of Power viewership
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv ... 235233124/

I saw this article yesterday and it's just laughable in so many ways.

First this claim that they somehow won the prize for faithfulness to the source just stands out as unbelievable given what we've seen.

The second thing that really sticks out to me is the section where he speaks about the spirit of Tolkien being people from different backgrounds overcoming distrust. I just don't see that as an accurate description of "the spirit of Tolkien." Certainly this kind of theme is in a way consistent with The Lord of the Rings or the Hobbit, but calling it THE spirit of Tolkien just seems to me to so miss the point of what he was writing about that it's no wonder a few paragraphs later they talk about not understanding why some fans are so upset with the series: they don't seem to actually understand Tolkien to begin with, so of course the don't understand complaints from fans which are based on how it deviates from Tolkien.

In any case, I'm very skeptical of just what should be taken away from Nielsen's numbers here for several reasons. A few of them are addressed in this piece: https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/ ... 5fb1a534ea Not mentioned in this piece is that there are also several categories within streaming ratings and there are some nuances to how those all work which impact what the ratings actually mean. Then there is this piece, which takes for granted relatively large viewership numbers and still finds that this may actually be fairly bad all things considered: https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon- ... wer-2022-9

In any case, maybe the series is proving to be a success. If I am wrong I'm wrong, but I am very curious to see hard numbers for the more recent episodes. I know that people I know who were initially positive or at least giving the series a chance have stopped watching in recent weeks.

[Frustration]

It hardly matters as long as they retain their Prime memberships. Amazon might have hoped that the show would draw in new subscribers, true. They might have counted on those hypothetical viewers, sure. But it doesn't matter whether a single person watches the show, if all the people signed up for Prime stay signed up for Prime.

There has been a definite divergence between critical response and how audiences respond, and I among others see this as resulting from a problem with critics. They keep praising garbage.

[BBally81]

There has been a definite divergence between critical response and how audiences respond, and I among others see this as resulting from a problem with critics. They keep praising garbage.

You can't trust online "audience" response either to know whether something can be a success, for example the Queen Latifah reboot of The Equalizer has gotten %43 audience rating on RT and a 5.2 rating on IMDB and yet the show has been a big success with actual general audiences, with its second season getting an overall viewership of around 9 million US viewers placing it among the top 10 most watched Primetime programs of the 2021-2022 season (and that's not counting streaming viewership through Paramount Plus).

Certain online culture war bloggers and Youtubers were trashing shows like Falcon & Winter Soldier, Loki and Moon Knight as being "Go Woke, Go Broke" shows and yet they managed to become a big success in viewership.

[McAvoy]

There has been a definite divergence between critical response and how audiences respond, and I among others see this as resulting from a problem with critics. They keep praising garbage.

Certain online culture war bloggers and Youtubers were trashing shows like Falcon & Winter Soldier, Loki and Moon Knight as being "Go Woke, Go Broke" shows and yet they managed to become a big success in viewership.

Doomcock is obsessive with the show in how he thinks its so bad. Almost clickbaitish now.

[clearspira]

There has been a definite divergence between critical response and how audiences respond, and I among others see this as resulting from a problem with critics. They keep praising garbage.

Certain online culture war bloggers and Youtubers were trashing shows like Falcon & Winter Soldier, Loki and Moon Knight as being "Go Woke, Go Broke" shows and yet they managed to become a big success in viewership.

Doomcock is obsessive with the show in how he thinks its so bad. Almost clickbaitish now.

Sadly, clickbait is how you grow and maintain a modern Youtube channel as there is simply too much competition. You find out what your base wants and wear it out. Only those who have some legitimate skill like cooking or engineering can thrive going the ''honest'' route.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

There has been a definite divergence between critical response and how audiences respond, and I among others see this as resulting from a problem with critics. They keep praising garbage.

Certain online culture war bloggers and Youtubers were trashing shows like Falcon & Winter Soldier, Loki and Moon Knight as being "Go Woke, Go Broke" shows and yet they managed to become a big success in viewership.

Doomcock is obsessive with the show in how he thinks its so bad. Almost clickbaitish now.

Sadly, clickbait is how you grow and maintain a modern Youtube channel as there is simply too much competition. You find out what your base wants and wear it out. Only those who have some legitimate skill like cooking or engineering can thrive going the ''honest'' route.

What about breadtube?

[Thebestoftherest]

Honestly I am not sure how they count views on shows.