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The more daring stuff by the standards of the time from the 30s and 40s is more remembered than the popular franchises of those decades.

The Internet + the crazy money Amazon and tech companies might sink into movies can supercharge the speed of that process.

The answer is no, but there's a few reasons for that.
Or rather, a few reasons that particular films or other properties are remembered. It happens the MCU overall hits most of them.
1) A film develops new techniques or writing trends that change how films are made (and inspire a lot of lesser knockoffs.) Even if no individual MCU film hits this marker, the shared universe model it pioneered very definitely DID. Movies aren't the same after The Avengers.
2) the property achieves cultural saturation beyond the film itself. Duh, the MCU had that before it existed since it's an adaptation of extremely well-known comics that have been running 50-odd years uninterrupted at this point.
3) The works inspire people who later go on to make their own movies, keeping the techniques and references to it in the cultural consciousness. I'm not sure we've seen this yet, but I guarantee we will.

There's probably a lot more but yeah.

In my opinion, the MCU is this generation's cultural zeitgeist. It is to Millenials and Gen Z what Star Wars was to Boomers and Gen Y. It's light will fade, particularly when the superhero bubble bursts, but it'll never be forgotten this century.

Slash being Slash again. As CmdrKing noted, they're being based on existing comic books. If that bothers you, well... then why? Many of these comics are decades old. Infinity Gauntlet storyline dates back to the early 1990s. When is it you feel the left got out of control, huh? Because the 1990s was the time when government actually worked, with a strong middle class and good, sensible laws being passed.

No, even if the Superhero bubble pops, (which it hasn't for over 70+ years at this point) the series has made several classic films such as The Avengers, Captain America: The Winter Solider, Captain America: Civil War, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.s 1 and 2 and most recently Avengers: Infinity War. And the films in between these classics have also been really fun if not out right good.

Also keep in mind that the DC Animated Universe is still remembered and well loved to this day and it's almost 30 years old at this point... why do I feel old all of the sudden? But no, the MCU has so far aged really well though I've no doubt that some elements will be seen as dated in years to come, much in the same way that Star Trek (both the TOS and the TNG Eras) and the Classic Doctor Who Series have a number of dated elements and yet there still considered classics.

Personally I wonder if the new Star Wars movies will stand the test of time as so far, IMHO, The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi are just A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back and, again IMHO, aren't as good as the first two films in the Original Trilogy, The Thrawn Trilogy or even the Prequel Trilogy which I actually happen to like.

But again, that's just my opinion, will just have to let history be the judge of all this.

TOS is far from dated, because I think it was offensive even at the time. At least under the wrong writer. It was overall a good show, but it was very conservative in many ways. TNG is the one that's more dated, same as DS9, and fit your descriptions.

I don't think they will. I think they'll be forgotten. I really think they should have adapted Legends material going back all the way to the Old Republic era, like Marvel is doing, instead of retconning Legends into being non-canon. That was a chance for fans who wanted to see their favorite stories on the big screen... just die. And of course, they only brought back Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, and Harrison Ford because the big corporations are cynically pandering to the nostalgia of what people miss about classic movies. There isn't a single creative bone in their body past, "What is the most efficient way to make the most money based on what our study groups say people want?" They really should have started with stuff like Dawn of the Jedi, and run all the way along the continuity, fixing the problems, and overall tightening it up. How cool would that be? Alas, it never was.

When I said TOS was dated I meant in things like effects, costume design, the sets and the treatment of women (which not as bad as some but still pretty cringe worthy). As for the TNG era, which I count as everything from TNG to Enterprise, I personally see some of it's elements to be just as dated as TOS and again, in TOS' defense in regards to the treatment of women it's got NOTHING on Enterprise or that one TNG episode in season 2 that we will not speak of for the sake of good taste.

But in the end, everything will be just a little bit dated no matter how timeless it's story is if just for the fact that technology and storytelling is ever changing. And in regards to things standing the test of time just take a look at Power Rangers, a silly kids show that is one of the cheesiest shows ever created and it's not only still remembered to this day but it's still going.

I think one of the reasons the MCU is doing so well is because, much like Doctor Who, it's got the advantage of being able to tell any story it wants and have it fit regardless. You can have a story about a famous surgeon learning about the ways of Sorcery and then follow that up with a movie that features a talking Raccon and a talking baby tree as main characters who help to fight a living planet. And have both co-exist with a more grounded spy thriller who's main lead is a WW2 Veteran who is still around because he was frozen in a block of ice after stopping a kinda Nazi who had a red skull for a face and none of it feel out of place.

Series like Star Wars and Star Trek are always going to be limited by what they can do as they set barriers around themselves based on the genre their set in. But the MCU can be anything it wants to be because of the main foundation of the Superhero genre. A hero can be anyone and come from anywhere and they can be any sort of hero they want to be.

I dunno, the treatment of women I think is bad even for its time. It seemed more like a compromise to get their more progressive ideals on the air, that they had to bend in other areas. And yes, it has nothing on TOS or Enterprise. But it's more subtle than in TOS and Enterprise. It's all about males getting jealous in relationship issues, this is seen through male perspective, to a degree. Women are sexualized, but not the men, except in pursuit of said women. And then there's Sub Rosa. I could list many other examples. I do blame Rick Berman for that, though. In addition to being a homophobe and transphobe, he strikes me as misogynistic. Especially since Roddenberry's vision for Trek was misogynistic, and he wanted to stay true to that.

Very true.

One thing I'm learning about the Doctor is just how much he goes into different genres, so I think you have a point here. Can't comment until I see more Who, as I've only finished the first two episodes of the first serial in 1963. Yeah.

I still think adapting the most population Legends materials starting thousands of years during the height of the Old Republic should have been the way to go.

Yukaphile wrote: ↑Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:19 am Slash being Slash again. As CmdrKing noted, they're being based on existing comic books. If that bothers you, well... then why? Many of these comics are decades old. Infinity Gauntlet storyline dates back to the early 1990s. When is it you feel the left got out of control, huh? Because the 1990s was the time when government actually worked, with a strong middle class and good, sensible laws being passed.

I shall respond to multiple other posts besides this within reasonable time.

But Slash being Slash? What does that even mean?

I'm Yuka being Yuka. We are who we are.