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The Lost World as a followup to Jurassic Park
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:43 am
by BridgeConsoleMasher
So apparently Crichton was indifferent about writing the sequel, then Spielberg and Universal proposed a hefty endorsement to for him to write the book so that they could make the movie.
Originally Spielberg wanted to follow up with the shaving cream canister with all the dino DNA, but Crichton had his own ideas.
I'm not really trying to compare it to the first movie, but considering that above, how well does that direction taken by Crichton work as a movie sequel concept?
Re: The Lost World as a followup to Jurassic Park
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:56 am
by Madner Kami
The book is quite different to what you get in the movie, so talking about the sequel movie kinda has to happen outside the context of what Crichton wrote. I mean, a lot of the basic plot-points of the book are in the movie, but not vice versa.
Re: The Lost World as a followup to Jurassic Park
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:21 am
by BridgeConsoleMasher
So like there's a missing link in concept development between Crichton's book and the execution of the film.
Re: The Lost World as a followup to Jurassic Park
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:28 am
by Madner Kami
Well, the book's basic plot is, that Ian Malcolm follows a friend to Isla Sorna after they both discover that there's something wierd going on around and on that island (finding wierd animal corpses washed ashore in Costa Rica). There, he discovers that dinosaurs are still there (Site B) and that an evil corporation wants access to the genetic data for their own benefit.
So far so good, but the movie also now invents Jon Hammond's involvement, that the evil corp wants to actually abduct dinosaurs to create a zoo, the absurd hunting safari and the TRex getting to the mainland. In essence I'd say, that almost all the more stupid moments of the movie are completely based off things not happening in the book.
Re: The Lost World as a followup to Jurassic Park
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:56 pm
by Admiral X
I liked the book a lot better than the movie. I also liked it better than the book it was sequel to.
If you want to find out what happened to the shaving can, there's actually a game that was made that goes into that. The story is kinds interesting, but the gameplay looks like it would be lame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBDwYeA ... RzkhU7e5IO
Re: The Lost World as a followup to Jurassic Park
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:13 pm
by BridgeConsoleMasher
Admiral X wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:56 pm
I liked the book a lot better than the movie. I also liked it better than the book it was sequel to.
If you want to find out what happened to the shaving can, there's actually a game that was made that goes into that. The story is kinds interesting, but the gameplay looks like it would be lame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBDwYeA ... RzkhU7e5IO
https://youtu.be/xzaVCAYer7M?t=243
Re: The Lost World as a followup to Jurassic Park
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:00 am
by ORCACommander
please tell me I am not alone in hating the jurrassic park book?
Re: The Lost World as a followup to Jurassic Park
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:06 am
by Eishtmo
Malcolm was dead at the end of the first book. Kind of made my desire to read the second a lot less when I found out he was alive in it.
Re: The Lost World as a followup to Jurassic Park
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:19 am
by Madner Kami
ORCACommander wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:00 am
please tell me I am not alone in hating the jurrassic park book?
Never got around to read it. How does it differ to the movie?
Re: The Lost World as a followup to Jurassic Park
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:29 pm
by abki
Madner Kami wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:19 am
ORCACommander wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:00 am
please tell me I am not alone in hating the jurrassic park book?
Never got around to read it. How does it differ to the movie?
Well, I liked the book but it's very different from the film (there's a 10 minute youtube video comparing them that you can watch here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXGI1rHGEMw).
From what I remember when reading the book, the book's characters tend to have different personalities and meet different fates.
The overall story is about the same (Grant + kids get lost in Jurassic Park while everything goes to hell), but the book has additional events which are omitted in the movie (Grant passing through the aviary, control
almost being restored to the park, Malcolm et al. being stuck in the Safari Lodge being surrounded by raptors ,etc...), as well as some plot points that are completely ommited (namely Grant & the kids spotting a velociraptor hiding on a supply boat that left for the mainland, an attempt to find one the the raptor nests to counts how many of them hatched, etc...).
The book also tends to have a focus on technical details (to some extent), for instance there's a part in the book where Malcolm asks for the control centre to pull up a plot of the heights of a specific species, and the book has a figure of a Gaussian. Malcolm then argues that since the dinosaurs were released in batches the distribution should have multiple modes, we would only see a Gaussian if we had a population that was breeding. There are also long descriptions of the lab, I can't comment of the biology, but the computer specs have become a bit funny nowadays in how Jurassic Park runs on a whole 3 Cray XMP supercomputers (around the same flops as some smartphones), along with a database with a whole billion entries (WOW!).
Apart from that, the only other thing that comes to mind are Malcolm's occasional rants against everything from the responsibility of power, to science as a whole; but although I don't agree for the most part I didn't find it annoying (other's mileage may vary).