Is everything from 2009 onwards Star Trek 2.0?

[Yukaphile]

Really, I think STD would make a lot more sense as a prequel to the rebooted TOS movies rather than TOS in any way, shape, or form. Yet they still call it the Prime Universe despite the fact that it is not.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I don't see aesthetics in production design or technical specifications in technology development as terribly significant in determining universes. And weirdly enough, Abrams set out ot match the aesthetics of TOS more than Discovery anyway. On top of that Discovery aesthetics are more inline with Enterprise with uniform design.

[Yukaphile]

They can call it the Prime Universe for Picard's new series, but I just know in my heart, given how badly Kurtzman has screwed around with the continuity, that it won't truly be the Prime Universe. And this time, we won't have any "alternate universe" explanation, it's just bad storytelling.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Isn't there already a thread by you about Discovery having should been a third continuity?

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2728

Not much gray area in between topics here.

[Sir Will]

They can call it the Prime Universe for Picard's new series, but I just know in my heart, given how badly Kurtzman has screwed around with the continuity, that it won't truly be the Prime Universe. And this time, we won't have any "alternate universe" explanation, it's just bad storytelling.

Basically.

[Yukaphile]

@BridgeConsoleMasher Yes, but this is different. I'm lumping in both Prime and Kelvin Timelines here, given that STD onward feels less like Trek and more like a blatant rewrite of Trek for no reason other than... dumb writing.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

@BridgeConsoleMasher Yes, but this is different. I'm lumping in both Prime and Kelvin Timelines here, given that STD onward feels less like Trek and more like a blatant rewrite of Trek for no reason other than... dumb writing.

Lumping them together might be the only difference, and is somewhat trivial in nature, not to mention that your complaint about STD overall is essentially the same.

[Yukaphile]

Because Kurtzman is still gonna be the big cheese in charge, and he seems like a bad, bad, bad, bad, BAD writer who shouldn't be allowed 30,000 feet within Star Trek.

[Deledrius]

If I'm honest, the post-2009 Trek is probably Trek 3.0. TNG was the soft reboot of 2.0. The difference is that up until 2009, there was always an effort to treat all of Trek as a cohesive, ever-evolving whole, rather than a necessary evil to have contempt for while being unable to leave it behind.

[Karha of Honor]

Really, I think STD would make a lot more sense as a prequel to the rebooted TOS movies rather than TOS in any way, shape, or form. Yet they still call it the Prime Universe despite the fact that it is not.

There are books and comics from the Prime Universe that stay loyal to the feel of the Prime Universe.