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For those like me who hate STD, this is your thread. I figured STD is long overdue to have one, given the general clumsiness, pointless retcons and continuity errors, and changes to the mythos which amount to negative world-building. I won't post in the actual threads anymore. But I do wanna have a place to unleash some steam. A VISOR a hundred years before Geordi (which was not even around when he was a child), giving the Klingons twin junk, changing Mirror Universe characters to be sensitive to light? What drugs are these idiots smoking? Haven't they watched Trek at all? GODDAMN IT, THESE RETCONS ARE THE WORST. Stop claiming it's the Prime Timeline! It has nothing to do with that at ALL!

Why does this bug me so much? What Chuck said about Voyager, that he doesn't seem to see in STD at all. Trek is being dumbed down for the masses for the sake of profit. There's no longer any intelligence to it at all. Hell, did you hear Star Trek 4 was cancelled? And good riddance. They blamed Star Wars, but truthfully, I think it's also the fact lots of people are angry and dissatisfied with how they are handling these older sci-fi franchises. "And yet it's still coming! It won't stop! HOW DO YOU KILL TWO FRANCHISES THAT ARE ALREADY DEAD?!"

I thought you never saw the Kelvin films?

Since I merely posted in another thread to answer it without going into a rant, I will answer in more depth here that having a VISOR in the 23rd century is a blatant continuity gaffe because if it's possible to have it that earlier, then Geordi should have had it as a kid, when he was five, during that fire. This is why hardcore nerds, like myself, won't like STD. Because those in charge aren't rigidly trying to conform to the continuity like they claim. On DS9, those behind the scenes were. You can believe them when Moore said that. You can't believe them when they say that about STD.

You're just taking a line of dialogue out of context in order to fuel more hatred for another show.

You're not being upset about continuity, you're just being unreasonable.

Isn't CBS shutting down fan projects left and right? We all have a reason to be unhappy the way the franchise is being helmed at the moment.

Maybe you should just retitle this thread into the "CBS Rant Thread".

I hear the Klingons are looking more and more like how they did with Worf. But that's stupid for so many reasons. They should look like they did on TOS. That's something Enterprise, yes, fucking ENTERPRISE got right. Shows you the general competence on display, and I wonder if the creators are not fans of "Trek" so much as TNG fans who just kind of half-remember the most mainstream stuff from their childhoods.

They look more or less the same as they did, just with hair now. Augmented Klingons were mentioned, but not shown.

I don't know why I even bother telling you this though, every time someone points out to you how a lot of the details you complain about have been straight-up addressed in dialogue or are non-starters to begin with, you either move onto your next inane complaint or just completely ignore it and decide to continue complaining about the same thing anyway.

When will they look like the TOS Klingons and not the TNG/reboot Klingons? When will they include TOS lore like Dr. Roger Korby, or the First Federation, or Daystrom, or literally anything past attempting to cash in on 1990s Trek nostalgia? Because this isn't being made for TOS fans, it's an attempt to shoehorn TNG elements that have no place in TOS into TOS before they belong there. Like Section 31 or the Mirror Universe.

Or hell, the lives lost around the Eminiar VII star system? These are things legitimate TOS fans know about!