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Yukaphile wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 3:24 pm And yet, lots of so-called "official works" I see today, not even naming Trek anymore, seem little better than fanfiction.

Yukaphile wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 3:15 am And no, this is not me taking another chance to trash STD

turbo_sailor67 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:30 am

Yukaphile wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 3:15 am And no, this is not me taking another chance to trash STD

Well, I think there are probably multiple parts to it, beyond being lazy.

It seems to me:

1. They want to "re-write" all of Trek because it wasn't "done right" back in the day, or judging it by today's values and standards.

2. They don't want to be constrained with being Star Trek, i.e. knowing its internal lore, continuity, or in-universe rules; like "I want to write a legal show but I don't want to bother having to read up on anything law-related"

3. They are more concerned with making it "theirs" as opposed to making a good show.

4. They know regardless of how badly they do, they will an eager crowd based on brand recognition alone, so they don't have to strain tax their mental faculties. I don't think STD would be nearly as popular as it is without it's namesake, although I do believe they would receive endless accolades for being so "edgy"

5. They could have avoided so many problems by not firing Mr. Fuller, setting the show in the far future, giving the main character some kind of arc or path to redemption, and not copying elements from some obscure point and click game for starters. This however would interfere with #s 1 & 2.

Or 6: Alex Kurtzman just sucks at everything he does if going by his IMDB page is a yardstick.

I was excited for the show, I gave it a shot and after getting to the first cliff hanger, found it lacking. If anyone likes this show, I'm glad you can get some enjoyment out of it.

ChiggyvonRichthofen wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 1:44 pm Writing is how they make their living, so no I don't think laziness would be an accurate or worthwhile accusation.

One thing fans don't always recognize is that there's a world of difference between writing fan fiction and writing professionally. In the former, you write as little, as much, and whatever you want in your free time. Professional writers have all kinds of different standards and hoops to jump through. For television writers, their final draft might still end up unrecognizable after it passes through more hands and finally makes it onto the screen.

Writers can't just right whatever they want, even if it's good, particularly in the current television era with a ton of oversight, long story arcs, etc. That doesn't mean there's no blame to be had, but a lot of what people are angry about fall outside the control of the writers or even the showrunner.

Yukaphile wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 6:29 pm Well, then, that explains a lot under the new corporate model. It's really all about protecting the bottom line. Yes, it was like that in the past, but it's far more blatant than ever before. Probably, again, because of late-stage capitalism, which means poorer education and more squabbling over resources, thus those in charge default to a tribal, "I gotta protect what's mine, steal as much as I can!" mindset. SMH