DS9 treatment of MU vs VOY treatment of Borg

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Obviously the Borg were probably more significant than the Mirror Universe. So I guess, what are your thoughts on how DS9 abundantly used the MU in the same vein as Voyager abundantly using the Borg?

[Deledrius]

That's a great comparison. I had never really thought about it, but I suppose it's not a stretch to say they both sorta trashed their respective indulgences.

[Yukaphile]

The DS9 crew had respect for the source material it was building on, and wanted to do something interesting, tell a good story. Voyager... did not. It was pandering to the lowest common denominator. Not even a fan of "Dark Frontier." Tbh, I think "Scorpion" was the ONLY good Borg story Voyager ever did. After that, it all went downhill.

[Mecha82]

Borgs suffer from being overused and writers forgetting what made them so scary. Threat that Borgs create is that they are unstoppable force that's goal is to take away your individuality by making you part of hive mind. It's why "Resistance is Futile" is so scary because it tells you that you will be assimilated. This is something that VOY writers didn't seem to understand. Granted that Borg Queen who was introduced in First Contact didn't really help either.

[Yukaphile]

Meanwhile, the Mirror Universe feels like a genuine attempt to expand the lore and the history. Not what STD/DISCO does, which is to make them weak to light. Yes, I am never going to let that go.

[Mecha82]

Since I haven't seen DISCO I don't know how Borgs were in that but you surely have already made clear your dislike towards DISCO several times without mentioning possible things that you do like about it.

[Yukaphile]

I like the first confirmed gay ship. That's probably one thing.

[Admiral X]

It's pretty clear the DS9 crew was having fun with the Mirror Universe episodes after the second one. They even conveniently forgot that the first time we saw Alliance ships was when they decloaked in front of Kira and Bashir, all so they could do a silly Ferengi episode. I wouldn't be surprised if the homo- and bisexuality was just them indulging themselves a bit since initially, Kira was the only one, and really it was more that she was trying to literally fuck herself.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

It's pretty clear the DS9 crew was having fun with the Mirror Universe episodes after the second one. They even conveniently forgot that the first time we saw Alliance ships was when they decloaked in front of Kira and Bashir, all so they could do a silly Ferengi episode. I wouldn't be surprised if the homo- and bisexuality was just them indulging themselves a bit since initially, Kira was the only one, and really it was more that she was trying to literally fuck herself.

Well the homosexuality as a joke in that episode I think can just be considered a lark to close off the episode, but I agree overall with the sentiment of them just having fun with it.

A nice consideration as far as how I approached making the thread.

[Fianna]

The Borg were a much larger part of Voyager than the Mirror Universe was for DS9. There weren't any Mirror Universe characters who became part of the DS9 main cast, and the DS9 series finale didn't involve fighting a Mirror Universe enemy.