Londo Mollari = Donald Trump allegories?

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Londo Mollari = Donald Trump allegories?

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To what degree do you see parallels between Londo and Trump? At least in their rhetoric? Londo might as well be bellowing, "Make the Centauri great again!"
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Unlike Trump, Londo Mollari has some nobility. While he wanted to see Centauri Republic get it's lost glory back he was always ready to fix things when things got bad because of it like when he destroyed every Shadow on Centauri Prime to save his people and his home planet from Vorlon Planet Killer. Mollari was also clever being able to defeat his political enemies trough his schemes when ever he needed to. And Mollari was also able to care about other people and eventually he was even able to develop friendship G'kar or at least mutual respect when at first they couldn't even stand each other.
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Not a lot. There is an undercurrent of a search for personal glory for both, IMHO, but Mollari was pushed by the Narn into the recognition that peace wasn't working. In one of the most tragic moments on TV, G'kar was ready for peace over revenge for past wrongs just a little too late. Mollari's idea of Making Centauri Great Again was to go conquering. Trump hasn't mentioned taking the Panama Canal Zone back. :) He seems more concerned with economic prosperity.

Trump is trying to keep people out against their will, not to bring people in against their will.
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Even at his worst, Londo was always a patriot - he loved wealth and power, sure, but as a noble he was raised in a system that told him privilege was his rightful place in society, and I feel like he viewed his own personal power and glory as a component of the power and glory of the Centauri as a whole. Certainly, when push came to shove, he chose his people over himself - and I think even early Londo would have believed he'd choose that, even if he was often unthinkingly selfish in ways he'd eventually (mostly) grow beyond. He was also an educated man, and I think even if the 'great' period of the Centauri Republic was that of a conquest-driven empire that was ultimately unsustainable (and immoral besides), its prestige and prosperity while it lasted was a real thing that he genuinely wanted to return to for the good of his people (with, ideally, House Mollari at the top of the heap).

I'd liken him to Cartagia if anyone, if you can imagine Cartagia's quick (albeit broken) mind congealed by old age and indolence: ignorant of the reasons he's been rewarded in his life but unwilling (or unable) to consider it could have had to do with anyone but himself, therefore assuming that what he has done - indulging his various vices, mainly - must constitute some innate genius, and continuing to do so on the basis that so far as he can tell it works. So if he wakes up one morning with the notion that nuking his own planet will make him a god, why wouldn't it?
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Yukaphile wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:36 pm To what degree do you see parallels between Londo and Trump? At least in their rhetoric? Londo might as well be bellowing, "Make the Centauri great again!"
If you slander Londo Mollari like that again I will make you eat your own left kidney.
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Well, I do see parallels, lol. "Make the Centauri great again!" If not in personality, at least in rhetoric.
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Though comparing him to Cartagia is... interesting.
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Yukaphile wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:20 am Well, I do see parallels, lol. "Make the Centauri great again!" If not in personality, at least in rhetoric.
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Yukaphile wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:20 am Well, I do see parallels, lol. "Make the Centauri great again!" If not in personality, at least in rhetoric.
A parallel. Singular. Seriously, beyond that phrase, they share almost nothing (meaningful) in common.

If you see more than that, feel free to elaborate. I think it would require a pretty cynical mis-reading of Londo or a very generous and charitable view of Trump to even get them on the same planet.
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The circumstances are also different. Londo was the head of a failing civilization that was once great, not the head of a country that is still the richest and most powerful in the world. I would say he had more parallels with Dukat that Trump.
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