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Anyone else seen the rumours that Kathleen Kennedy is not just gone but Disney has decided to erase the Star Wars sequels from canon?

As much as I would LOVE this to happen, it would also make me a hypocrite given how much time I have spent rallying against cancel culture. I hate the sequels, but many others do not. I cannot in good faith deprive others of that.

I've been saying for years at this point that I suspect that Disney would be doing something like would happen, that they would just reboot their side of the series and, most likely, just start adapting the Original EU. However, with that comes the flip side of the coin because, like you said, the Disney Era does have it's fans and does have good stories, The Mandalorian being possible the best of them.

So, what will most likely happen is the same thing that happens with Marvel and DC comics and is something that has begun to happen with the MCU and Spider-Man made into an entire film. The Star Wars Multiverse.

Multiverse, while cliche, is a writers dream come true as every story can exist at once so all are in canon. This way the Disney Era AND the Lucas Era can all be canon at once along without any real contradictions. The Legend of Zelda had a Multiverse for literally decades and likely still will have said Multiverse even after they try to combine them as many are suspecting they will with the Breath of the Wild Games.

DC is arguable The Crowning achievement of the Multiverse idea with the help of Crisis on Infinite Earths that created the DC Universe as we know it today and later series came around to reintroduce other Universes that were either restored or created after the events of COIE. Star Wars, had a long running series of books, comics and games that had several stories that were huge hits when they came out and are still popular today. And until the Disney Buy Out were considered canon.

And since Star Wars has introduced time travel into the mix it's now only a matter of time before they delve into this idea. At this point it almost seems like a matter of when and my bet would be during the 50th anniversary in 2027. That gives Disney and Lucas Film 6 to 7 years to make a plan plus the flame wars over TDST will have calmed down and given that a 50th Anniversary to one of the most influential series of all time isn't something you skip celebrating and they will likely want to do something big that will get the general audience excited.

I'm not 100% sure this will happen but given humanities track record when it comes to something as big as Star Wars I'm 95.77% sure this might happen.

No. Seen them, not have I.

I have seen the rumors. The plan would be using some sort of Force Dimension that allows people to jump to different points of history or something. I remember vaguely the episode in Rebels (not a bad show IMO).

I don't think it will happen like a straight reboot of the Sequel Trilogy (that is the talk, not the whole movie triple trilogy). I think it will be more like a soft reboot where they don't reference the Sequel Trilogy at all. That they will continue as if the trilogy is in its own pocket universe, but I doubt they will redo Episode 7 for example.

That will confuse the hell out of the casual fans.

clearspira wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:44 pm Anyone else seen the rumours that Kathleen Kennedy is not just gone but Disney has decided to erase the Star Wars sequels from canon?

As much as I would LOVE this to happen, it would also make me a hypocrite given how much time I have spent rallying against cancel culture. I hate the sequels, but many others do not. I cannot in good faith deprive others of that.

To be honest: I'm not one of the biggest fans of the New Trilogy - I hated the "killing off the former main characters left, right and center" and the helmet voices gave me migraines.That being said: IIRC at least Harrison Ford was only in it, if his character would've been killed.

And I have to say, I found it quite stupid, that Disney decided to go "all original", when they had perfectly adaptable books lying around - the complete "Admiral Thrawn"-Saga would have been perfect for Star Wars.

However - and I concur with you there, Spira - it would be rather dickish to just say "/ignore new trilogy", because these movies have their fans.

Also I liked how Clearspira respects how Christopher Plummer played a pre-mutation-fading Klingon instead of having the whole genetic thing retconned.

BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:36 am Also I liked how Clearspira respects how Christopher Plummer played a pre-mutation-fading Klingon instead of having the whole genetic thing retconned.

Pfft. Any Trek fan worth their salt ignores or do their best to figure out how to add it to Trek lore. We know they reduced heavily the Klingon aspect of the makeup on many of the actors.

Star Trek VI is a good movie on its own IMO.

No that's going way too far, I have my gripes with the sequel trilogy but cancelling them is too much. In the future you will have kids in the same situation I was "oh man I really loved the Prequels || Sequels, let me join a forum and discuss with other fans, oh apparently Prequels || Sequels are garbage and I'm human garbage for not denouncing them."

Hero_Of_Shadows wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:34 am No that's going way too far, I have my gripes with the sequel trilogy but cancelling them is too much. In the future you will have kids in the same situation I was "oh man I really loved the Prequels || Sequels, let me join a forum and discuss with other fans, oh apparently Prequels || Sequels are garbage and I'm human garbage for not denouncing them."

Very, very true. When I first found out, that you are apparently not allowed to like "Batman & Robin", but have to like the Nolan-Trilogy instead, which was fine, don't get me wrong, but not on #1 of my favourite list, I was ... miffed.
Now, I'm a guy in the middle of my thirties, so I experienced time before the internet and have to say: "Sometimes, concerning the movie-taste, times were better, when not everyone with a webcam and an internet-connection could go all Nostalgia Critic on your ass for liking Batman & Robin or for saying 'Know what? While the original Trilogiy is great, the Prequels, while flawed, are not that bad as people say, they are.'"
Obi-Wan would call the discourse back in the day more "civilized".

And personally, I have to say: Don't care, what people say on the internet. Even if you like a reviewer (as we do with our own Chuck Sonnenberg - or with Linkara, Simon J. Broome, Lindsay Ellis or 'Der Held der Steine', which is a german youtuber, reviewing Lego), "just repeat for yourself: It's just a show", as the MST3K-Introsong goes. And back in his first reviewing days, Chuck made it easy for us to agree - or disagree - with him on a subject, because he had the decency to say "I'm just a viewer with an opinion". And honestly, that is something I'm missing with other reviewers, as great as they might be - the original humbleness, that Chuck had in his opening statement, which translated to me: "You might agree, or disagree, with me - either way, it's fine, I don't have "die Weißheit mit Löffeln gefressen" (fed on the wisdom with spoons - meaning: I dont think of myself, that I know it all)".

Other reviewers, even Linkara or Blockbuster Buster - reviewers, whose works I really like - come across as Mister Know-it-alls and their fanbase reflects that, leading to opinions being suddenly sacrosanct, so you can't disagree with them, if you don't want their fans to force you to do the walk of atonement, completely with yelling "Shame, Shame, Shame".

Am I exaggerating in the later paragaph? Maybe? A little. ^^

But back to topic: I'm not a big fan of the populus suddenly declaring: "Hey, I didn't like Season 8 of Game of Thrones - so let's make a petition to force the creators to do a new Season 8."
Or of the possibility that the New Trilogy is nixed and replaced with... something different.

There are exceptions to this so called "Cancel Culture", however. Take "Gone with the wind", for example. I can understand, that - I think, it was Amazon, right? - put it of the list and later put it back on with an accompanying discussion concerning the topics of said movie.

Wait. Kathleen Kennedy has been fired? Again?

We should start a pool: "Who will get fired most often: Kennedy or Kurtzman?"