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If this being a soft reboot for the show wasn't clear enough, they even redesigned the title font so it's no longer the modernized TOS version from the first two seasons.



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Looks really good, looking forward to it.

So, "The Burn" wiped out the Federation.

Oh thank god, something that looks intuitively challenging.

Well, I sure like the idea of being in the future of the future and not trying to ruin it's past.

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Well, I'm clearly not wanted as a customer.

Madner Kami wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:45 amWell, I'm clearly not wanted as a customer.

Haven't you been lamenting this series the whole time? I'm not really surprised.

Zargon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:40 am Well, I sure like the idea of being in the future of the future and not trying to ruin it's past.

Hell yeah. More like being in the past but it's not even time travel and you still have to follow all the rule.s

I guess my problem with a future show that shows the Federation destroyed is it suddenly makes everything we've seen and done, and are doing (Picard) seem almost pointless. Maybe pointless is too strong, but I can't think of a better word, but it definitely puts a damper on things.

Zargon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:40 am Well, I sure like the idea of being in the future of the future and not trying to ruin it's past.

I find it hilarious and infuriating that I have defended this gorram (thank you, Firefly) show since Day 1. I've advertised it on social media, defended it on forums, and gotten in the faces of the assholes online who hate it repeatedly. I've watched it several times and read the books plus buy the merch. What I love? That it is a fresh new take on the TOS era and the connection to the setting.

And they dump all of it to go to the goddamn future as a sop to the people who hate it. Fracking CBS.

Wow. Burman showing emotions. Something with real stakes, where I'm not sure if our heroes will succeed or more importantly HOW they'll succeed. Can I just take a moment to say how refreshing BOTH of those changes are? I'd love to see the actors off the very short leashes they were on in Seasons 1/2.

And as for the change, well, this is the first major plotline where I don't know how it ends:

Klingon War: Obviously ends with some sort of truce and cold war situation
Mirror Universe: Obviously Discovery makes it home
Evil AI: Is obviously defeated.
Rebuilding the Federation: ???

I don't know. It's not immediately obvious they'll succeed, and it's not immediately obvious they'll fail. There's probably people who'd like a Federation back, there's people who wouldn't. What will it look like? Obviously for it to be the Federation it has to be close to Rodenberry ideals, but that still gives us lots of wiggle room. Who is in it? I don't know. Andorians, their military power was core to the Federation and we saw a lot in the trailers, but Cardassians? Romulans? Klingons? Vulcans? All possible, none probable.

Humans, probably in some flavor because god it cuts down on makeup costs. Farscape has taught me that aliens are fucking expensive.