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Ghost in Δ the Shell
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:33 am
by PerrySimm
Not to spoil anything yet, but I have to say that I did like the film.
Re: Ghost in Δ the Shell
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:26 am
by Admiral X
Have you read the original manga at all? Can you make any comparisons to previous adaptations?
Re: Ghost in Δ the Shell
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:29 am
by Rasp
Admiral X wrote:Have you read the original manga at all? Can you make any comparisons to previous adaptations?
I was hoping for a Stand Alone Complex movie but it sure didn't feel like that from the trailer.
Re: Ghost in Δ the Shell
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:33 am
by Admiral X
Seems they took at least a character name from it, though.
Re: Ghost in Δ the Shell
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:18 am
by Rasp
Admiral X wrote:Seems they took at least a character name from it, though.
PASS.
Re: Ghost in Δ the Shell
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:25 am
by MissKittyFantastico
Spoilerless - I don't really enjoy being the negative one, but I didn't think much of it. I can't speak to this first-hand since I haven't read/seen the originals, but a couple of reviews I looked up after watching suggested a lot of the scenes and setups that did seem interesting were just lifted whole from them, and I can believe that - the writing and editing tying those scenes together into a story was mediocre and tone-deaf. I kind of feel like I want to be Tony Stark sneering at the film "everything special about you came out of a bottle," assuming the bottle contained the anime. (And assuming Tony wasn't wrong; it's not a perfect analogy...)
If I'd done my homework beforehand and known the director and editor came from Snow White and the Huntsman, and one of the writers was responsible for the three awful Transformers movies, I might not have been surprised (and would've knocked Kong Skull Island off my wanna-see list instead).
Re: Ghost in Δ the Shell
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:08 am
by phantom000
The fact that they white washed it is enough to put me off, the trailers have done nothing to change my mind. I might go see it if my circle wants to and insists on dragging my along.
Re: Ghost in Δ the Shell
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:47 am
by Admiral X
It' funny because the director of the 1995 movie doesn't get why people are upset over that and makes much the same point I do as far as the body and the name not actually being her real ones. He also makes much the same point I have as far as it being an adaptation and there being no point to do it if it's exactly the same as his movie or any other previous version.
Re: Ghost in Δ the Shell
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:00 am
by Rocketboy1313
I am a big fan of the anime series.
This movie has inexplicably chosen to take elements not only from the original movie but from the second season of the show. With a hearty helping of "Robocop" (2014).
It is not a happy marriage.
I did not care for the "Ghost in the Shell" movie.
A compliment: It looks nice.
Biggest Complaint: Maybe the worst villain I have seen in a movie in ages. I have no idea what his plan was or his motivation. Maybe Krall in "Star Trek Beyond" was worse but not by much.
This desperately needed to be an ensemble movie with each member of the squad doing their part to help the main character, the Major, accomplish a simple goal of solving a typical case for a special anti-hacking task force. Instead it is a character drama and Scarlet plays the part very flat and detached (cause she is a person who is in a robot body and feels flat and detached for the world) so it is rather boring.
Re: Ghost in Δ the Shell
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:08 am
by Rasp
Admiral X wrote:It' funny because the director of the 1995 movie doesn't get why people are upset over that and makes much the same point I do as far as the body and the name not actually being her real ones. He also makes much the same point I have as far as it being an adaptation and there being no point to do it if it's exactly the same as his movie or any other previous version.
I wouldn't say this made me upset because she was white - Scarjo was just a boring choice for what seems like a boring movie - they played everything by the usual Hollywood rules and it bit them in the ass - the phrase i keep hearing when it comes to this movie is "you cant manufacture success".
Rocketboy1313 wrote:
This desperately needed to be an ensemble movie with each member of the squad doing their part to help the main character, the Major, accomplish a simple goal of solving a typical case for a special anti-hacking task force. Instead it is a character drama and Scarlet plays the part very flat and detached (cause she is a person who is in a robot body and feels flat and detached for the world) so it is rather boring.
You know back when I said I wanted a SAC movie? that's kind of what I meant... also the choice to make the major special when she didn't need to be was.... probably a bad call and wouldn't have been necessary in an ensemble police procedural. I'm not even saying scarjo can't be the major just - if that is the route they went with it that sounds awful - and a terrible decision for a character supposedly designed to hold up a whole movie on their own.
Making changes is not problem the problem is the changes they made were not interesting.