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Star Wars: Cosmic Reboot for 50th Anniversary?

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This is not based on anything I read it's just a theory I've had in my head for a while. As many of you know, there are rumors that Disney is planning to reboot their end of the Star Wars Continuity (they can't reboot the Original Trilogy of the Prequels as I think Lucas put it into the contract when he sold the series to Disney that they couldn't reboot his films (and reboot a classic Trilogy and one that has been somewhat vindicated by history and now has a HUGE following wouldn't go over well with fans of the series)).

I've made post similar to this before with me holding the opinion that a Reboot is coming and that when it does Disney will most likely adapt the Thrawn Trilogy as their big movie event. However, the Disney Era isn't without it's fans and there are good stories from said era (The Mandalorian being the most notable) so the question is if/when the reboot happens how will Disney go about it.

As mentioned this before but time travel has official been added to Star Wars lore and while nothing was really done with it besides saving Ahsoka from Vader and the means of entering that place was lost when has that ever stopped studios before? When you introduce time travel into a series lore you've opened an Pandora's box that cannot be closed again no matter how hard you try to do so. Sooner or later someone is going to find a way to take advantage of this plot device and that WILL result in a reboot that is completely in canon.

My bet is that the reboot will occur during the 50th Anniversary in 2027. Given that Disney is, well, Disney, and Star Wars is one of the biggest and most popular series of all time I suspect that we'll officially hear about some major Event that will take place in 2027 for the 50th Anniversary. In addition to re-releasing several Legends stories from Knights of the Old Republic, the X-Wing comic series old EU Novels and re-airing the Clone Wars and other SW TV Series (I suspect we'll even get something related to the Infamous Holiday Special) Disney and Lucas Film will be making a big deal about this big event that will forever change the Star Wars Universe for decades to come, that will respect that past while also working to move the series forward yada yada yada.

They'll likely (or rather Should) start production in 2023 or 2024 and we'll start seeing trailers in 2025 or 2026. They'll likely work to get Ridley in the event along with the surviving OG cast and even Lucas himself. Given how the keep everything vague in the trailers is falling out of style when the film is properly announced the studio will be, for the most part, overall honest with what the event is about, that it will involve time travel but what the film will set out to change is not revealed.

I also suspect that other smaller series will use the idea of time travel to explain away key plot points like Rex saying how he removed his chip in Rebels only for The Clone Wars to retcon that to him not removing it until after Order 66. Or how characters in The Mandalorian don't really seem to know anything about the Jedi or the Force despite this taking place only 5 years after Return of the Jedi.

I've also no doubt that they will make a point to go for the multiverse explanation and that the Time Travel Shenanigans of this event DIDN'T erase the Disney era and that it's still going on just in a different timeline.

Am I stretching, trying to make mountains out of mold hills? Possibly, but given the many Many rumors that Star Wars is going for a reboot this, to me, that this is a very likely outcome. Thoughts?
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I think people should stop thinking about Star Wars enough to even come up with theories like this one.
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The TT wouldn't translate well into a big-budget format. Also, a lot of this is also contingent upon just who takes over the CEO position after Ms. Kennedy is gone, and frankly, I don't see her leaving even when her contract comes up again, so that could be as much as a few years to half a decade.

Let's also take a minute to remind you all that she's holding back the insane excesses of a lot of the people working there. For example, if Mr. Filoni got the nod to the big chair, I could totally see him wanting to bridge Legends to the canon timeline ala the COIE approach, and I am NOT a fan of mixing canons. At all. I've never bought into him as the "savior of SW" and I think it's a dangerous myth that's percolated around him and perpetuated by movie, TV and EU casuals. Continue building the EU as a parallel universe for the older fans under the SWL banner, do not mix the two despite the fact that's what he was doing on TCW and DSW is doing even now. It runs the risk of damaging the brand and in some worst-case scenarios possibly even killing SWL as a viable brand and all production ceases.

A lot of the EU material just doesn't translate well over to a visual medium. And let me tell you this, Winter, we're already in the era of stale reboots that water down the source material so they deviate further and further from the core ethos. In today's landscape not even Mr. Spielberg could fit the big-budget blockbuster formula very well, and he has done a fantastic job in the past adapting books into movies. His ilk back in the day merely wanted to make movies, not make money. We are far past that golden age now. I mean, really, something as bleak and depressing as NJO... do you think that could translate into big-budget movies? Or the nihilistic themes and half-living enemies that appear in KOTOR 2? Possibly Kreia, in telling you there is no hope and history is doomed to repeat.

How will mainstream audiences react to something that is "absent of the Force?" The mixed reaction to TROS also says that a lot of these EU elements would be accepted, such as Palpatine's return, but that they also need proper execution, and I don't buy that seven years is enough time for a paradigm shift to have that happen. Make no mistake, in the olden days the EU was made for the fans and fans alone similar to DS9 because we were also fans of movies like Aliens and Predators and consumed other SF of the time, so we could accept the silliness and gloom a lot more readily. DSW is always going to be beholden to a certain level of all-ages commercial appeal and I think that's where so much of the awkwardness and even backlash comes from lately. We no longer feel the passion and love present, and it's hard to accept.

And this also, as I've said repeatedly in other threads, leaves the question... what happens to SWL in relation to the ST? Come on! The old EU was NOT to get us to the movies no matter how much the creative forces may treat it as a salad bar to take from with barely concealed understanding or a disdain in some instances. It was the original canon of SW, and a complete timeline, despite whatever lies you hear online. Do not rebrand the ST "Legends" or it hurts the timeline and would depress sales. As a part of the TSF, we buy up and donate SWL books in order to cultivate a whole new generation of fans and to get children reading. That will have major payoff further down the line, trust me. Merging them with time travel, frankly, is a road to dumber and dumber story. Mr. Chuck stated mind control is like radiation, but so, too, is time travel as well as reviving the dead. A little is good, and too much of it is bad. Even in the hands of skilled writers, as we see with DS9.

Mr. Filoni has never particularly impressed me that way anyway, and it should concern you given the dwindling ratings for Rebels. I know, I know, he blamed the lowered rating, but frankly, I don't buy it. Mr. Weisman thrived with Gargoyles. With the lowered rating did was boxed him into a corner he never was for TCW, and revealed all his glaring flaws as a writer. Do you remember how the backlash to Thrawn went? That wasn't Thrawn, the guy who screamed at his underlings about art, who only lets the heroes go due to plot contrivance, and winds up defeated by space whales. No. It was an alternate universe version of him that has no similarities to real Thrawn, since it's not the appearance or mannerisms that make the character who they are, but their actions as defined by the events they go through, and having peaked in the imperial era, that should be further testament to my words.

Mr. Filoni, being the best to adapt EU elements outside the old authors, still is only the best by DSW's low standards, and he's never been interested in writing for the EU anyway, so that just backs up my point.

You are right that the future of DSW lies in the TV shows and movies, since sadly, the mentality that the EU was merely "filler" to get us to them, when I along with many other fans would have preferred to leave them be when TCW began airing 12 years ago, goes right up to the top, and it's how they can treat it this casually and disregard it so callously. It means nothing to them past being a well of ideas. So, why do you need to focus on SWL TV shows and films? Given that they keep underestimating their audience's intelligence, that would just "confuse" people, and TBF, it would confuse all the older fans too, their place in the canon hierarchy. I don't want more T-canon nonsense like it was for TCW. SWL TV shows and movies won't work for the audience Disney wants, it just takes on a new form of canon displacement unless you dump it into Legends.

But SWL books and comics continuing the older story? Could very easily work and it's what me and so many others in the TSF are pushing for, and contrary to rumors, we're not hatemongers or trolls or terrorists. This is the way for SWL to survive, not grafting it to the failures of the DC.

Though, of course, feel free to disagree.
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Rocketboy1313 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:48 pm I think people should stop thinking about Star Wars enough to even come up with theories like this one.
You shouldn't care this much.
Just watch the movies.
Or don't.
Maybe they will be good.
Maybe not.
To paraphrase Lindsay Ellis, I can help but feel that fans should be allowed to gather in groups online and theorize and have fun without being told to just watch the movie and don't put to much thought into it. I posted a theory I have and based it on what has happened before and what might likely happen again.

I should care as much as I so choose and while I can just re-watch/re-read/replay all the Star Wars stories I enjoy thinking about what's to come is, for me exiting. And truth be told, regardless of what comes I'm exited for the 50th Anniversary of Star Wars.

I want to see how Disney celebrates with the theme parks, shops and streaming sites and TV channels. There's no way Disney WON'T Celebrate Star Wars turning 50 and not only remaining in but STILL shaping pop culture. And the thing about a series turning 50 is that there's ALWAYS something that is shown to celebrate that Anniversary.

James Bond had Skyfall, Doctor Who had the Day of the Doctor and Star Trek had Beyond. Will it be good? No clue but it will likely be memorable and by that point most fans will have calm down by then and most will be exited for the next Big SW installment. Again, I could be completely wrong but I think it's okay just to post a theory on what I think will be done for the 50th Anniversary of my favorite series.
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Winter wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:49 am
Rocketboy1313 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:48 pm I think people should stop thinking about Star Wars enough to even come up with theories like this one.
You shouldn't care this much.
Just watch the movies.
Or don't.
Maybe they will be good.
Maybe not.
To paraphrase Lindsay Ellis, I can help but feel that fans should be allowed to gather in groups online and theorize and have fun without being told to just watch the movie and don't put to much thought into it. I posted a theory I have and based it on what has happened before and what might likely happen again.

I should care as much as I so choose and while I can just re-watch/re-read/replay all the Star Wars stories I enjoy thinking about what's to come is, for me exiting. And truth be told, regardless of what comes I'm exited for the 50th Anniversary of Star Wars.

I want to see how Disney celebrates with the theme parks, shops and streaming sites and TV channels. There's no way Disney WON'T Celebrate Star Wars turning 50 and not only remaining in but STILL shaping pop culture. And the thing about a series turning 50 is that there's ALWAYS something that is shown to celebrate that Anniversary.

James Bond had Skyfall, Doctor Who had the Day of the Doctor and Star Trek had Beyond. Will it be good? No clue but it will likely be memorable and by that point most fans will have calm down by then and most will be exited for the next Big SW installment. Again, I could be completely wrong but I think it's okay just to post a theory on what I think will be done for the 50th Anniversary of my favorite series.
Given on the 40th anniversary, they went on to subvert your expectations and alter Luke's character dynamics with the perception worldwide movie fans had held for him, I'm content to say it will probably be lukewarm, at best.
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Captain Crimson wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:03 am Given on the 40th anniversary, they went on to subvert your expectations and alter Luke's character dynamics with the perception worldwide movie fans had held for him, I'm content to say it will probably be lukewarm, at best.
Fair enough but then some Anniversary Specials aren't as good as they could have been. Take Power Rangers, the Wild Force episode Forever Red is a fan favorite episode that was praised for how it celebrated teh series' 10th Anniversary. By contrast, Once a Ranger and Super Mega Force are almost universally disliked.

In regards to Star Wars 50th Anniversaries are usually considered a big deal as shown with Bond, Doctor Who & Trek and at the time The Last Jedi was coming out Disney didn't really make a big deal about the fact that Star Wars was turning 40. I only learned that TLJ was suppose to be the 40th Anniversary of the franchise AFTER 2017.

Personally, for all it's flaws, I think that The Force Awakens would have been a solid Anniversary Special. Sure it has it's issues but it's retreads of A New Hope would have likely worked to it's benefit if it was released in 2017 instead of 2015.

All we can do is wait and see but regardless I've no doubt that Disney will be making a big deal about the 50th Anniversary. I mean, their still making a big deal about Walt Disney World turning 50 next year so it's kind of a no brainier for them to be thinking of doing something big for SW.

Regardless as to whether it's good, bad or just okay I'm looking forward to it regardless. :D
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Winter wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:25 am
Captain Crimson wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:03 am Given on the 40th anniversary, they went on to subvert your expectations and alter Luke's character dynamics with the perception worldwide movie fans had held for him, I'm content to say it will probably be lukewarm, at best.
Fair enough but then some Anniversary Specials aren't as good as they could have been. Take Power Rangers, the Wild Force episode Forever Red is a fan favorite episode that was praised for how it celebrated teh series' 10th Anniversary. By contrast, Once a Ranger and Super Mega Force are almost universally disliked.

In regards to Star Wars 50th Anniversaries are usually considered a big deal as shown with Bond, Doctor Who & Trek and at the time The Last Jedi was coming out Disney didn't really make a big deal about the fact that Star Wars was turning 40. I only learned that TLJ was suppose to be the 40th Anniversary of the franchise AFTER 2017.

Personally, for all it's flaws, I think that The Force Awakens would have been a solid Anniversary Special. Sure it has it's issues but it's retreads of A New Hope would have likely worked to it's benefit if it was released in 2017 instead of 2015.

All we can do is wait and see but regardless I've no doubt that Disney will be making a big deal about the 50th Anniversary. I mean, their still making a big deal about Walt Disney World turning 50 next year so it's kind of a no brainier for them to be thinking of doing something big for SW.

Regardless as to whether it's good, bad or just okay I'm looking forward to it regardless. :D
Oh they'll do something, fer sure. I just don't think it will involve SWL. Past picking and choosing what to bring over to the canon, of course.
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