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Should Jurassic Park have a "hero?"

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:23 am
by BridgeConsoleMasher
I think the first one is pretty sublime because it's more of an ensemble. You have Grant that's kind of a male lead, but the stakes aren't really set around him in particular.

Re: Should Jurassic Park have a "hero?"

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:25 am
by TGLS
No, all you need is one guy to say "It's Godzilla!" and just crowds of screaming extras.

Re: Should Jurassic Park have a "hero?"

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:09 am
by BridgeConsoleMasher
TGLS wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:25 am No, all you need is one guy to say "It's Godzilla!" and just crowds of screaming extras.
You surely need a little more than that.

Re: Should Jurassic Park have a "hero?"

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:59 pm
by Fuzzy Necromancer
The hero of the franchise is Jeff Goldblum's tiddies.

Re: Should Jurassic Park have a "hero?"

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:40 pm
by Madner Kami
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:23 am I think the first one is pretty sublime because it's more of an ensemble. You have Grant that's kind of a male lead, but the stakes aren't really set around him in particular.
Jurassic Park lives by it's ensemble cast. You've got Grant, who's kinda backwards oriented, but an upstanding guy with his heart in the right place, willing to take charge about what he technically doesn't like to do (deal with kids), showing that he'd be a great dad. You've got Ellie, who's a strong woman doing her own thing and while she does scream a lot, she's never the damsel. And then there's Muldoon, a down-to-earth hardass with a lot of empathy, willing to risk his life for the benefit of those around him without thinking twice about it. Even Ian is a good man, starting out as a macho know-it-all, who does show he's not just all about his wittyness and contrarianism, but also willing to risk his life for the children, even though it was an ill-advised attempt to not play second fiddle to Grant.

Re: Should Jurassic Park have a "hero?"

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:09 am
by BridgeConsoleMasher
Madner Kami wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:40 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:23 am I think the first one is pretty sublime because it's more of an ensemble. You have Grant that's kind of a male lead, but the stakes aren't really set around him in particular.
Jurassic Park lives by it's ensemble cast. You've got Grant, who's kinda backwards oriented, but an upstanding guy with his heart in the right place, willing to take charge about what he technically doesn't like to do (deal with kids), showing that he'd be a great dad. You've got Ellie, who's a strong woman doing her own thing and while she does scream a lot, she's never the damsel. And then there's Muldoon, a down-to-earth hardass with a lot of empathy, willing to risk his life for the benefit of those around him without thinking twice about it. Even Ian is a good man, starting out as a macho know-it-all, who does show he's not just all about his wittyness and contrarianism, but also willing to risk his life for the children, even though it was an ill-advised attempt to not play second fiddle to Grant.
Well it's like we spend so much time with Pratt's character in the other movies. There's only so much time you can spend with him as a foster parent to Blue.
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:59 pm The hero of the franchise is Jeff Goldblum's tiddies.
Typical response from you. Not surprised.

Re: Should Jurassic Park have a "hero?"

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:42 pm
by Beastro
All of Crichton's work deals with ensembles and his film adaptations seem to go that way as well.

IIRC, 13th Warrior starts from one guys perspective, but eventually he's subsumed into the team by the midpoint and ceases to be much of a view point character.

Even in Westworld the two guys are more "observed" in their actions by both the audience and the parks staff than being characters we're seeing a world through.

I think that is one main thing about Crichton's way of looking at things and writing, where he was very cold and "scientific" towards his characters, not allowing them to be more than what was required to allow his ideas to be expressed.

Re: Should Jurassic Park have a "hero?"

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:45 pm
by Madner Kami
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:09 amWell it's like we spend so much time with Pratt's character in the other movies. There's only so much time you can spend with him as a foster parent to Blue.
They hired Pratt because of his audience-pull at the time and for no other reason, if you ask me and it shows. It's to the detriment of both movies, that he's such a central figure to everything happening.

Re: Should Jurassic Park have a "hero?"

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:30 am
by BridgeConsoleMasher
Disclosure is pretty much about Michael Douglas' character.

Re: Should Jurassic Park have a "hero?"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:10 pm
by Beastro
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:30 am Disclosure is pretty much about Michael Douglas' character.
True and it's hard for it not to be.