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Will Revan's Gender be left Ambiguous the Future SW Stories

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:09 am
by Winter
This was something hammerofglass suggested in my post asking if players could play Revan as Non-Binary.
hammerofglass wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:02 pm What I think would be fun is you make a non-binary option. Then have NPCs always refer to Revan as they/them no matter what you pick and make everyone refusing to explain it a Mystery. When The Reveal happens you have two paths; if the player chose a man or woman then Revan started doing it to help the Anonymous Avatar of the Dark Side aesthetic they had going and everybody just rolled with it out of politeness, and if the player chose non-binary you just get a fun "oh, I guess that makes sense" moment.
It's an interesting idea, that the mystery around Revan is such that no one is even sure what their gender was which also allows ALL Revan's be canon. Not that Revan is always referred to as they/them but also, he/him and she/her. It happened so long ago and the records have been lost so no one knows for certain.

Would this be seen as just a cheap way to try and appease fans, very likely, but at the same time consider people who won't play any of the KOTOR games. Revan is mentioned, the scene in question builds them up as this legendary Force User who helped stop the Mandalorians but then fell to the Dark Side only to lose their memory and then helped in the fight against the Sith. All of which will happen regardless of player choice as even if you choose to take over the Sith Empire you, as Revan, always starts the game against the Sith and you always fight Malak at the end of the game.

People love a good mystery and if done right the lack of information about Revan can be useful in building up this history around the character to get fans interested.

Re: Will Revan's Gender be left Ambiguous the Future SW Stories

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:01 am
by Nealithi
Winter wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:09 am This was something hammerofglass suggested in my post asking if players could play Revan as Non-Binary.
hammerofglass wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:02 pm What I think would be fun is you make a non-binary option. Then have NPCs always refer to Revan as they/them no matter what you pick and make everyone refusing to explain it a Mystery. When The Reveal happens you have two paths; if the player chose a man or woman then Revan started doing it to help the Anonymous Avatar of the Dark Side aesthetic they had going and everybody just rolled with it out of politeness, and if the player chose non-binary you just get a fun "oh, I guess that makes sense" moment.
It's an interesting idea, that the mystery around Revan is such that no one is even sure what their gender was which also allows ALL Revan's be canon. Not that Revan is always referred to as they/them but also, he/him and she/her. It happened so long ago and the records have been lost so no one knows for certain.

Would this be seen as just a cheap way to try and appease fans, very likely, but at the same time consider people who won't play any of the KOTOR games. Revan is mentioned, the scene in question builds them up as this legendary Force User who helped stop the Mandalorians but then fell to the Dark Side only to lose their memory and then helped in the fight against the Sith. All of which will happen regardless of player choice as even if you choose to take over the Sith Empire you, as Revan, always starts the game against the Sith and you always fight Malak at the end of the game.

People love a good mystery and if done right the lack of information about Revan can be useful in building up this history around the character to get fans interested.
You know there is a way to make Revan's gender fluid by player choice and be somewhat canon. Have the tale of Revan being told to a group. Mention it was such a long time ago. And that some tried to take up the name of Revan that the full identity was uncertain now.
"This is a tale of old times. Heroes and Villains, good and evil as some would call it. Gather round as I tell you of the end of the third sith war." (I actually don't recall which numerical sith war it is so I just grabbed that number.)

Re: Will Revan's Gender be left Ambiguous the Future SW Stories

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:41 am
by Thebestoftherest
I do prefer that because unless your a historian most of the details of the fight will be lost on people a thousand years from now.

Re: Will Revan's Gender be left Ambiguous the Future SW Stories

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:19 am
by hammerofglass
They could also do what the original did and just not use pronouns when talking about Revan. Revan is too legendary for your puny pronouns.

It's the Jedi Civil War btw.

Re: Will Revan's Gender be left Ambiguous the Future SW Stories

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:20 pm
by Thebestoftherest
Plus since it takes place so long ago it not like the stuff we normally go to prequel era original era and sequel era would know of him

Re: Will Revan's Gender be left Ambiguous the Future SW Stories

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:56 pm
by hammerofglass
Another possible variation: Revan is one of those folks who accepts any pronouns, and that detail didn't make it down through history. Cue confusion.

Re: Will Revan's Gender be left Ambiguous the Future SW Stories

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:49 am
by Thebestoftherest
Think about it after Revan death his life story was likely alter by both the jedi and the sith as a tool for propaganda so where the truth begin and lies ends is almost impossible for anyone to tell.