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Yep...

https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status ... 997217798/

Russell T Davies: Got two Doctors, Torchwood and the Sarah Jane Adventures.
Steven Moffatt: Got two Doctors, no spin offs.
Chris Chibnell: Got one Doctor, no spin offs.

Lets be honest about this: even if you love modern Dr Who, you have to admit that the evidence is pretty clear when the show's Golden Age was. My worry is that he plays it safe and makes Fourteen a kind of ''Ten Lite'' instead of a distinct Doctor in his own right.

The first thing he needs to do if he wants to bring the fans back is to wipe away the insane nonsense that Hartnell wasn't the First Doctor and start from there. That doesn't mean he can't make a season out of it, but that needs to be his sole goal.

RTD's era was a lot of things, both good and bad, but it had a charm and excitement oozing out of (nearly) all of it that the subsequent shows have lacked. Miracle Day aside, of course. That was just miserable. Confidently, excruciatingly miserable. Torchwood was the angst outlet, apparently. But Doctor Who and SJA were so much fun...

Deledrius wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:17 am RTD's era was a lot of things, both good and bad, but it had a charm and excitement oozing out of (nearly) all of it that the subsequent shows have lacked. Miracle Day aside, of course. That was just miserable. Confidently, excruciatingly miserable. Torchwood was the angst outlet, apparently. But Doctor Who and SJA were so much fun...

I think Torchwood was a great idea marred by it going the Enterprise and Stargate Universe route of confusing "mature" with "more sex, more swearing, more asshole heroes".

There is great potential for truly adult episodes set in the Who Universe and Torchwood occasionally skirted that line such as the whole "realistic" immortality storyline with Owen where he is basically a walking corpse who cannot get an erection because he has no blood, cannot eat because his organs technically do not work, and cannot heal for the same reason. They played the horror of that up well.

A product of its time. I think he could do better with it now.

Jeesh, there really are only like six people in the BBC that get to do shows aren't there?

I really hope he improve as a writer because I don't want the mystery box format to return.

clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:59 am Russell T Davies: Got two Doctors, Torchwood and the Sarah Jane Adventures.
Steven Moffatt: Got two Doctors, no spin offs.
Chris Chibnell: Got one Doctor, no spin offs.

Are we not counting Class? I know it only got the one season, but...

ProfessorDetective wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:08 pm

clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:59 am Russell T Davies: Got two Doctors, Torchwood and the Sarah Jane Adventures.
Steven Moffatt: Got two Doctors, no spin offs.
Chris Chibnell: Got one Doctor, no spin offs.

Are we not counting Class? I know it only got the one season, but...

Tbh I completely forgot about it. Still fits the theme of diminishing returns though.

The NMD (Not My Doctor) crowd are treating this as if it's a victory for their cause, ignoring that RTD himself has no issues with there being a female Doctor, in fact he’s gone on record as saying that he thought Dame Judy Dench should have replaced David Tennant. So, even if we didn’t have 13 and other female Doctors making cameos in the novelisation of “Rose”, we have evidence that he’s just fine with the idea. or that he took a shot at Boris Johnson in his Rose epilogue short story portraying him as an Auton survivor from the events of that episode.

Could you imagine the social media reaction to Jack Harkness, the Van Statten character being a corrupt capitalist, or Rose & Mickey being interracial if they all happened today?

They would be labeled as "SJW propaganda" by morning. But because they all grew up with these, they get a free pass. They are somehow under the belief that politics in Doctor Who didn't start until 2018, showing they haven't properly seen the show in their lives.

In fact there was a 2005 column that was ranting about the revived series during the time Tennant was casted, where the author complains about the show suffering from political correctness and being sexist to straight males. (sound familiar?)



So, I still wouldn't put it pass the NMD crowd to start complaining again as soon as RTD provides an episode they deem as too "woke".

Especially grifters like Nerdrotic and Bowlstrek

He’s unpredictable and as such I’m not going to make a prediction about who he will choose. In fact, I think the probability of the next Doctor being a white man has gone up a little. But he’s also someone who is very aware of the larger picture and how things can damage a brand, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he casts a BAME woman as the next Doctor. It’ll be because they’re someone he thinks will be great and wants to work with (or wants to continue working with), but I’d imagine he’d also be very aware of the situation surrounding Jodie and the idea that casting a man now could send the message that “the woman was a failure, so we’re not doing that again”.

But, again, he’s unpredictable, so I’m not going to try to predict what he will do. We are, after all, talking about a man who was working on an episode where Harry Potter books leak into real life and which was going to have J. K. Rowling playing herself as the companion, until David Tennant took him aside and quietly said ”don’t you think that’s actually a bit much?”

https://gizmodo.com/the-doctor-who-harr ... -t-5050362

So who knows?

WEll Bbally for ROse and Mickey, Rose seems more interested in the doctor than him and so is the show.