John Kramer vs. Saint Peter
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:50 am
With Saw X now out I wanted to bounce a silly idea I had off everyone here, a Saw film that's not a traditional Saw film as it follows Jigsaw as he finds himself having to explain/justify his actions to Saint Peter at the Pearly Gates.
Personally I see Saint Peter having become really jaded after literally hundreds of years dealing with the worst of humanity trying to justify their actions and unwilling to put of with anyone's crap anymore. And then in comes John Kramer who's made a career out of murdering people while justifying it as not really murder and now finds himself in a situation where he's dealing with someone who knows all his sins and reasons for doing so and basically goes "Oh Crap, I actually have to justify myself".
I just see John trying to explain why he did what he did was the right thing and that he never really murdered anyone and that everyone he targeted needed his help only for Saint Peter to point out all the flaws in his argument. Like putting John put best friend in a trap and then after he, fairly, got out of it he was put in another where he had a higher chance of dying and had he survived that he was going to put him in another and another until he died. Aaannnddd how the reason he was put in said death trap was because he told John to move on with his life.
I just picture John having these really awkward pauses as he realizes he can't BS his way out of this and the only chance he has of not going to Hell is to repent and except that he was wrong and go to purgatory. And John doesn't want to do that because he spent the last few years of his life convincing himself he was just in what he did and yet Peter just keeps going "Nooo, you were just a petty asshole who wanted to get back at anyone who wronged or 'offended' you and who just happened to get a few people who agreed with you're stupid revenge scheme."
Honestly this could fill an entire film as we cut back to the tests which include John killing a man who did nothing wrong in his life and was a nice guy who's only crime was smoking. In that one I just picture cutting back to John and Peter as Peter just stares at John giving him a look that just screams "Really?" to which results in this little gem I thought of.
John: Alright maybe I overrated a little.
Saint Peter: ... A little?
Personally I see Saint Peter having become really jaded after literally hundreds of years dealing with the worst of humanity trying to justify their actions and unwilling to put of with anyone's crap anymore. And then in comes John Kramer who's made a career out of murdering people while justifying it as not really murder and now finds himself in a situation where he's dealing with someone who knows all his sins and reasons for doing so and basically goes "Oh Crap, I actually have to justify myself".
I just see John trying to explain why he did what he did was the right thing and that he never really murdered anyone and that everyone he targeted needed his help only for Saint Peter to point out all the flaws in his argument. Like putting John put best friend in a trap and then after he, fairly, got out of it he was put in another where he had a higher chance of dying and had he survived that he was going to put him in another and another until he died. Aaannnddd how the reason he was put in said death trap was because he told John to move on with his life.
I just picture John having these really awkward pauses as he realizes he can't BS his way out of this and the only chance he has of not going to Hell is to repent and except that he was wrong and go to purgatory. And John doesn't want to do that because he spent the last few years of his life convincing himself he was just in what he did and yet Peter just keeps going "Nooo, you were just a petty asshole who wanted to get back at anyone who wronged or 'offended' you and who just happened to get a few people who agreed with you're stupid revenge scheme."
Honestly this could fill an entire film as we cut back to the tests which include John killing a man who did nothing wrong in his life and was a nice guy who's only crime was smoking. In that one I just picture cutting back to John and Peter as Peter just stares at John giving him a look that just screams "Really?" to which results in this little gem I thought of.
John: Alright maybe I overrated a little.
Saint Peter: ... A little?