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I have to say that the premise of Season 4 bugs the hell out of me. I think it's a matter of regional history and where the metaphor bends in the wrong way. Basically, I live in Appalachia and there's a lot of mining in our history. There's also a lot of horrifying pollution, deaths, and accidents that the corporations are responsible for out of negligence.

Basically, they don't bother to do due diligence and the lives of people are ruined.

10-C is portrayed as a bunch of innocent victims that the Federation make peaceful contact with. Except, they have destroyed worlds and killed billions that they only did because they didn't bother to properly investigate where their mining was going. They're told, they stop, and it's shown to be a happy ending.

But that's absolutely not a defense.

They're guilty of manslaughter and improper safety on a truly massive scale but we're just supposed to pretend that's okay. It feels like Star Trek is going, "Well, those corporations didn't KNOW those heavy metals would poison the community. They shouldn't suffer any penalties." It wouldn't be nearly so noticeable if not for the fact they're space miners too.

Anyone else agree?

Didn't 10-c agree to reparations and to clean up the damage at the end? I'm not sure what else they really could do.

hammerofglass wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:15 am Didn't 10-c agree to reparations and to clean up the damage at the end? I'm not sure what else they really could do.

It's more the presentation that this is all a big misunderstanding when in real life, this kind of tragedy or its closest equivalent, can't just be dismissed as "oops, I didn't know!"

On the one hand, I can see this as the aliens not classifying life as we know it as life... but on the other hand, damn did they even BOTHER to check?

CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:38 pm

hammerofglass wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:15 am Didn't 10-c agree to reparations and to clean up the damage at the end? I'm not sure what else they really could do.

It's more the presentation that this is all a big misunderstanding when in real life, this kind of tragedy or its closest equivalent, can't just be dismissed as "oops, I didn't know!"

Yeah, that whole part felt rushed and unresolved to me, too. This was especially frustrating due to how much The Hunt dragged in the middle during the ticking clock. I let it slide because the overall message was a good one and felt like it was being made in good faith; the execution was just as clumsy as it was possible to be. At this point, I've come to expect exactly that sort of fumbling from Discovery. After the misery of Picard, I was just glad to have a show trying to find the good in a bad situation and embracing the Star Trek ethos, even if it's sloppy and naive.

I had to take the show's word for it that it all works out neatly. Realistically, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense with the explanation we were given by way of bad analogy.

How many more seasons does Disco have anyway.

Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:28 pm How many more seasons does Disco have anyway.

Just one.

It was delayed in release a couple of years, which is weird.

CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:00 pm It was delayed in release a couple of years, which is weird.

I know so few people who seem to be looking forward to STD. Its the one show that most people seem to agree sucks. I don't find it weird to be delayed, I think it is the one show that they would if they needed to. And yes, I presume it must have made money for them to keep making it, although how one makes money on streaming is a mystery to me.

clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:44 pmI know so few people who seem to be looking forward to STD. Its the one show that most people seem to agree sucks. I don't find it weird to be delayed, I think it is the one show that they would if they needed to. And yes, I presume it must have made money for them to keep making it, although how one makes money on streaming is a mystery to me.

Same as cable. People pay you money directly.