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I mean Paramount pulls out, no one takes it's place and the universe becomes the the place for the comics and books to stretch their wings.

Agent Vinod wrote:I mean Paramount pulls out, no one takes it's place and the universe becomes the the place for the comics and books to stretch their wings.

I was pretty tepid about Star Trek (2009) and hated STiD, but I know they have their fans and it would be nice to see the Kelvinverse extended for them in some way. I believe there are already comics for the Kelvinvsere; that might work better than (non-graphic) novels, given the action and visual spectacle involved in the movies.

Or maybe it'll be picked up by Disney. Never mind the Star Trek/Wars crossover -- we could see Jean Luc Picard meet Professor X.

Darth Wedgius wrote:

Agent Vinod wrote:I mean Paramount pulls out, no one takes it's place and the universe becomes the the place for the comics and books to stretch their wings.

I was pretty tepid about Star Trek (2009) and hated STiD, but I know they have their fans and it would be nice to see the Kelvinverse extended for them in some way. I believe there are already comics for the Kelvinvsere; that might work better than (non-graphic) novels, given the action and visual spectacle involved in the movies.

Or maybe it'll be picked up by Disney. Never mind the Star Trek/Wars crossover -- we could see Jean Luc Picard meet Professor X.

Crossovers like that are fine in the comics but i hope i won't ever see them in big budget movies.

Agent Vinod wrote:

Darth Wedgius wrote:

Agent Vinod wrote:I mean Paramount pulls out, no one takes it's place and the universe becomes the the place for the comics and books to stretch their wings.

I was pretty tepid about Star Trek (2009) and hated STiD, but I know they have their fans and it would be nice to see the Kelvinverse extended for them in some way. I believe there are already comics for the Kelvinvsere; that might work better than (non-graphic) novels, given the action and visual spectacle involved in the movies.

Or maybe it'll be picked up by Disney. Never mind the Star Trek/Wars crossover -- we could see Jean Luc Picard meet Professor X.

Crossovers like that are fine in the comics but i hope i won't ever see them in big budget movies.

I wouldn't want to see them become part of main canon, because it would complicate and derail things enormously. But anything else could work. Comics, games, books... heck, Marvel and DC even have multiple continuities on television, right? Maybe an animated series?

And yes, I'd be happy to see '09-verse novels. They could have done a lot more with the new timeline, but they opted to reboot again for 'round three of "Prequel that ignores existing continuity". I mean, I'll give Discovery a chance, but that's not a good starting point.

Agent Vinod wrote:Crossovers like that are fine in the comics but i hope i won't ever see them in big budget movies.

I was just thinking of Patrick Stewart having a passionate intellectual conversation with Patrick Stewart.

I honestly wouldn't care as long as there was a clear distinction made between them as far as the look of the books themselves, and there was no attempt to supplant the existing books that are based on the "prime" universe. Though, to be entirely honest, I haven't much cared for those since the DS9 restart books started, or just the way everything is being treated as one big extension of everything else. I liked it a lot better when the books were all essentially individual works that could theoretically be crammed into the existing series.

I may be confused on the exact legal restrictions at the moment though - as the CBS/Paramount dichotomy is like the heads of Cerberus gnawing off the same bone. Is the present situation such that Star Trek books can't be in the Kelvinverse due to "The Agreement" or whatever?

My understanding was that Trekkies just don't buy Kelvin timeline merch or books like they do with the prime timeline, but there could be legal reasons for that as well.

Personally, I'd have a hard time investing myself in a Kelvinverse Treklit universe. It would naturally lend itself to authors falling into the same old tie-in fiction trap of tying everything together and shrinking the universe as opposed to creating new adventures. We'd have to see what every character's Kelvin timeline version looked like, which would basically turn into a series of Alternate Universe novels.

The characters in the film have basically gone on a three film journey toward becoming the characters we already know. There's a few differences, but what would the point really be of going with the Kelvin universe rather than prime?

If it means we get that 20-year-prequel Young Captain Paris Saves The Galaxy Repeatedly series I've been wanting since I saw Beyond, I'll bite. It needn't even be Kelvinverse - ignore the Spock subplot about Old Spock, and the Enterprise getting trashed and replaced by 1701-A, and there's nothing storywise (ignoring how pretty all the tech is) that couldn't have occurred in the original universe. I mean, with the timeline branching off from the arrival of the Narada, Krall and the mining bees and the ancient weapon and all that jazz must have been there either way - maybe Shatner!Kirk didn't wind up doing the mission that brought him into contact with the superweapon chunk and Krall gave up and died because his plan wasn't coming together, or maybe the whole thing kicked off exactly like it did in the movie, except it was a different starship and captain who dealt with it (I know the music was pre-timeline-split so it'd have been the same, but I like to imagine fate somehow would've accommodated the musical taste of whichever captain wound up there, so maybe Prime!Krall got defeated by Roxette) (or maybe due to differing circumstances the Klingons happened to blunder into Krall's path first, and took out his swarm without realising they were there just because they were blaring Aktuh and Maylota across comms to pass the time).

As an aside, reflecting on the idea that Archer was supposed to be an amalgamation of Kirk and Picard style leadership, I've been mentally running through their best lines in Admiral vas Yorktown's accent, and man does it work. Although what with the Expanse it's difficult not to imagine there being more colourful metaphors.

ChiggyvonRichthofen wrote:My understanding was that Trekkies just don't buy Kelvin timeline merch or books like they do with the prime timeline, but there could be legal reasons for that as well.

Personally, I'd have a hard time investing myself in a Kelvinverse Treklit universe. It would naturally lend itself to authors falling into the same old tie-in fiction trap of tying everything together and shrinking the universe as opposed to creating new adventures. We'd have to see what every character's Kelvin timeline version looked like, which would basically turn into a series of Alternate Universe novels.

The characters in the film have basically gone on a three film journey toward becoming the characters we already know. There's a few differences, but what would the point really be of going with the Kelvin universe rather than prime?

They did not sell books because they decided to not write them.