The Internet is Worse Than Ever – Now What? - [Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell]

[clearspira]

ripping off Tyler Durden's schtick from Fight Club

By someone who never read the book and completely missed the point of the film. Sadly, that describes a large portion of its fandom.

Listening to the audio commentary track for the film, I was disappointed to learn even the filmmakers seemed to have entirely missed the point somehow.

I have no problem with Death of the Author. Many books and shows are made ten times better by just inserting your own canon into it. But it really annoys me when it is claimed that the people who originally made a product ''missed the point'' of what they were making. No they bloody didn't! WE are the ones who have missed the point by inventing a completely new point!

There is only one time in which I would accept this as an argument and that is when the original creators of a work have come along years after the fact and decided to REINVENT what the original meaning of their work was. Now it becomes just criticism because in effect they are just as guilty of Death of the Author as we are they just have slightly more legitimacy about it.

[hammerofglass]

You know they were adapting a book, right?

[Deledrius]

Maybe you'd struggle less if I said the wordier version: The filmmakers, in their audio commentary, expressed excitement over elements of the film's success in a way that directly contradicts the overt and explicit themes of the film, themes that they themselves described in said commentary.

I'd love to provide quotes to illustrate this, but it's been twenty years since I last listened to it and I've never bothered to own a copy. The stunning lack of self-awareness on full display in the commentary has stuck with me. It was not me missing the point.

You know they were adapting a book, right?

This.

[clearspira]

You know they were adapting a book, right?

The Boys series is nothing like the comic. Jurassic Park is nothing like its book. Most James Bond films are nothing like their books. The Harry Potter films after 2 only use the books as a guideline.

Films are their own entity. That is why we use the term ''adaptation'' rather than ''copy and paste.''

And this is the ONLY correct way to go about things. Books are not films nor are TV shows. If you follow something too closely you know what you get? M. Night Shyamalan's The Last Airbender that tries to pack the whole of the first season into a single film instead of doing what it wants.

TL;DR the filmmakers did not ''miss the point''. They had the exact point of the film they were making.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I'd say a big part of the internet getting worse is the hostility to both adult content and children. Platforms that used to be safe for porn are kicking it the curb or making it officially against the rules while pornbots continue to flourish. It used to be if your kid had unrestricted internet access the worst that would happen is they see goatse, not get radicalized into members of the hitler youth.

[McAvoy]

You know they were adapting a book, right?

The Boys series is nothing like the comic. Jurassic Park is nothing like its book. Most James Bond films are nothing like their books. The Harry Potter films after 2 only use the books as a guideline.

Films are their own entity. That is why we use the term ''adaptation'' rather than ''copy and paste.''

And this is the ONLY correct way to go about things. Books are not films nor are TV shows. If you follow something too closely you know what you get? M. Night Shyamalan's The Last Airbender that tries to pack the whole of the first season into a single film instead of doing what it wants.

TL;DR the filmmakers did not ''miss the point''. They had the exact point of the film they were making.

Lord of the Rings springs to mind. And we could go on and on how it wasn't true to the books in this regard or that. In the end, it was a great trilogy.

Especially when compared to the bloated thing that was The Hobbit.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

You know they were adapting a book, right?

The Boys series is nothing like the comic. Jurassic Park is nothing like its book. Most James Bond films are nothing like their books. The Harry Potter films after 2 only use the books as a guideline.

Films are their own entity. That is why we use the term ''adaptation'' rather than ''copy and paste.''

And this is the ONLY correct way to go about things. Books are not films nor are TV shows. If you follow something too closely you know what you get? M. Night Shyamalan's The Last Airbender that tries to pack the whole of the first season into a single film instead of doing what it wants.

TL;DR the filmmakers did not ''miss the point''. They had the exact point of the film they were making.

Raimi’s Spiderman 1 vs Nolan’s Batman Begins. Go.

[Deledrius]

Lord of the Rings springs to mind. And we could go on and on how it wasn't true to the books in this regard or that. In the end, it was a great trilogy.

Especially when compared to the bloated thing that was The Hobbit.

Except, to the point I was making, Peter Jackson didn't then make a commentary track talking about how much he thinks it's good that the films are encouraging fascism, clear-cutting forests, pollution of the water and air, industrialization, and eschewing simple pastoral lives.

This wasn't about an adaptation changing tone or theme from the original work. It's the people who made an adaptation talking 180 degrees from the stated themes of their own work.

That would be like making an adaptation of The Right Stuff, and then being glad that Flat Earthers are enjoying it and spreading the word about their beliefs.

It's bizarroland thinking.