The Continuity between Pre-Civil War Parties and their Modern forms

[McAvoy]

I mean it is relevant since it's brought up by the Right, that the Democrats are the party of pro-slavery way too many times.

Relevant to what though, other than historians? What something was in the past, when everyone involved at the time is long dead, isn't really relevant to what it is now other than being a useful example of how things can change.

Its more about MAGA Republicans striking back at Democrats for calling them racists, bigots etc, party of the KKK. That Republicans freed the slaves. It's a shallow argument because of pretty much stated above. That's how it's relevant because of poor teaching or lack of teaching history classes.

[Riedquat]

I mean it is relevant since it's brought up by the Right, that the Democrats are the party of pro-slavery way too many times.

Relevant to what though, other than historians? What something was in the past, when everyone involved at the time is long dead, isn't really relevant to what it is now other than being a useful example of how things can change.

Its more about MAGA Republicans striking back at Democrats for calling them racists, bigots etc, party of the KKK. That Republicans freed the slaves. It's a shallow argument because of pretty much stated above. That's how it's relevant because of poor teaching or lack of teaching history classes.

Yeah, I know people do that sort of thing and it annoys me whenever it happens, whoever does it. Any time someone is trying to push responsibility (or claim credit for that matter) for something done by people from long ago they're being fundamentally dishonest. Sins of the father stuff always is.

[hammerofglass]

I mean it is relevant since it's brought up by the Right, that the Democrats are the party of pro-slavery way too many times.

Relevant to what though, other than historians? What something was in the past, when everyone involved at the time is long dead, isn't really relevant to what it is now other than being a useful example of how things can change.

Its more about MAGA Republicans striking back at Democrats for calling them racists, bigots etc, party of the KKK. That Republicans freed the slaves. It's a shallow argument because of pretty much stated above. That's how it's relevant because of poor teaching or lack of teaching history classes.

I don't think anyone is actually misinformed about that though, they just say that to annoy normal people and derail the conversation. Ask them who the KKK supports now or why there's so many confederate flags at Republican gatherings and they get mad.

[KuudereKun]

I mean it is relevant since it's brought up by the Right, that the Democrats are the party of pro-slavery way too many times.

Relevant to what though, other than historians? What something was in the past, when everyone involved at the time is long dead, isn't really relevant to what it is now other than being a useful example of how things can change.

Its more about MAGA Republicans striking back at Democrats for calling them racists, bigots etc, party of the KKK. That Republicans freed the slaves. It's a shallow argument because of pretty much stated above. That's how it's relevant because of poor teaching or lack of teaching history classes.

Yeah the Republicans doing that is annoying, but it's always annoying when people assume that means there can't have been anything Progressive about the Antebellum Democrats or Conservative about the early Republicans.

I'm trying to bring a Nuanced perspective both sides have trouble with.