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Slash Gallagher wrote: ↑Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:23 am
Why is it sad? What's so wrong with retconning evolution?
In what jobs or social situations does it matter that someone did it?
Because it's not true and if you really are sincerely religious, you should not fear the truth. It also causes a distrust of science which can lead you to disregarding medical advice which can get people killed or horribly injured or untreatd.
People will fear the truth all the time no matter what ideas they have in their heads. I fail to see why it makes you ignore doctors.
Because evolution is true and creationism isn't? That is good enough for me. It made sense to believe in all of this nonsense before electricity was developed (I guess), but we've moved on now and disproved all of this nonsense. I frankly I could not care less what you fear, all I care about is that people stop teaching kids nonsense.
(How many more times I wonder can I press that this is all nonsense without overusing the word?)
There a re relevant and irrelevant truths. if Evolution gets retconned with God or not is fucking irrelevant to pretty much everything.
As an atheist, I find the idea that theists can just casually retcon their religion to be weird. The omnipotent supreme being couldn't explain himself properly the first time round?
Slash Gallagher wrote: ↑Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:23 am
Why is it sad? What's so wrong with retconning evolution?
In what jobs or social situations does it matter that someone did it?
Because it's not true and if you really are sincerely religious, you should not fear the truth. It also causes a distrust of science which can lead you to disregarding medical advice which can get people killed or horribly injured or untreatd.
People will fear the truth all the time no matter what ideas they have in their heads. I fail to see why it makes you ignore doctors.
Because evolution is true and creationism isn't? That is good enough for me. It made sense to believe in all of this nonsense before electricity was developed (I guess), but we've moved on now and disproved all of this nonsense. I frankly I could not care less what you fear, all I care about is that people stop teaching kids nonsense.
(How many more times I wonder can I press that this is all nonsense without overusing the word?)
There a re relevant and irrelevant truths. if Evolution gets retconned with God or not is fucking irrelevant to pretty much everything.
As an atheist, I find the idea that theists can just casually retcon their religion to be weird. The omnipotent supreme being couldn't explain himself properly the first time round?
If he is omnipotent he is hard to interpret.
Which is not true though. If you are omnipotent then you have the capability to make others understand completely and absolutely what you mean. That is the very definition of being able to do literally anything.
Slash Gallagher wrote: ↑Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:23 am
Why is it sad? What's so wrong with retconning evolution?
In what jobs or social situations does it matter that someone did it?
Because it's not true and if you really are sincerely religious, you should not fear the truth. It also causes a distrust of science which can lead you to disregarding medical advice which can get people killed or horribly injured or untreatd.
People will fear the truth all the time no matter what ideas they have in their heads. I fail to see why it makes you ignore doctors.
Because evolution is true and creationism isn't? That is good enough for me. It made sense to believe in all of this nonsense before electricity was developed (I guess), but we've moved on now and disproved all of this nonsense. I frankly I could not care less what you fear, all I care about is that people stop teaching kids nonsense.
(How many more times I wonder can I press that this is all nonsense without overusing the word?)
There a re relevant and irrelevant truths. if Evolution gets retconned with God or not is fucking irrelevant to pretty much everything.
As an atheist, I find the idea that theists can just casually retcon their religion to be weird. The omnipotent supreme being couldn't explain himself properly the first time round?
If he is omnipotent he is hard to interpret.
Which is not true though. If you are omnipotent then you have the capability to make others understand completely and absolutely what you mean. That is the very definition of being able to do literally anything.
Slash Gallagher wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:43 amHow do you know? You are not omnipotent.
Omnipotence means you have unlimited power. If you're omnipotent, you by definition, are able to make yourself completely clear right off the bat.
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Slash Gallagher wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:43 amHow do you know? You are not omnipotent.
Omnipotence means you have unlimited power. If you're omnipotent, you by definition, are able to make yourself completely clear right off the bat.
But you don't have to ebcause you are omnipotent.
So the proposed being is just fucking about and around with everyone? That's a great interpretation of Christianity, Judaism and Islam and I completely agree: There's a jackass at the helm.
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Slash Gallagher wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:43 amHow do you know? You are not omnipotent.
Omnipotence means you have unlimited power. If you're omnipotent, you by definition, are able to make yourself completely clear right off the bat.
But you don't have to ebcause you are omnipotent.
So the proposed being is just fucking about and around with everyone? That's a great interpretation of Christianity, Judaism and Islam and I completely agree: There's a jackass at the helm.
Beat me to it Madner Kami. And how is ''you don't have to'' an excuse for anything? What about simple decency to others?
Slash Gallagher wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:43 amHow do you know? You are not omnipotent.
Omnipotence means you have unlimited power. If you're omnipotent, you by definition, are able to make yourself completely clear right off the bat.
First, just because God does not follow your morality does not make God immoral. You wish to dictate to others instead of letting them figure out things on their own. God cannot be because God does not make the decisions I would is the height of arrogance.
Second, can God create something too heavy for God to lift? Why does omnipotence create this inherent contradiction? Maybe the problem is not with God but with the term.
Slash Gallagher wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:43 amHow do you know? You are not omnipotent.
Omnipotence means you have unlimited power. If you're omnipotent, you by definition, are able to make yourself completely clear right off the bat.
First, just because God does not follow your morality does not make God immoral. You wish to dictate to others instead of letting them figure out things on their own. God cannot be because God does not make the decisions I would is the height of arrogance.
Second, can God create something too heavy for God to lift? Why does omnipotence create this inherent contradiction? Maybe the problem is not with God but with the term.
First, the problem isn't about morality. The problem is that all these scriptures say that they are perfect and divinely inspired or written. If a god is omnipotent, the scripture is self-declared to be perfect, and there are all kinds of errors that need to be explained, the only conclusion following the premises is that they didn't want to be clear to begin with. This leads to a pile of other questions (particularly if being honest is one of the things the scripture says to do).
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