Kirk as a psychotic, sexist, Klingon-hater, wannabe-God

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Enterprise is a lady. A beautiful lady that I must return to.

...

Good lie, captain.

Yes... A lie...

[Yukaphile]

Wow, talk about literal cargo ship...

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Wow, talk about literal cargo ship...

I don't get it.

[Yukaphile]

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CargoShip

[Deledrius]

Nah, Kirk is not the problem. 60s Shatner was maybe, personally, a little too self-absorbed, but Kirk the character was lucid, calculating, and a fair bit of the excess bravado was just part of the act, like with Captain Jellico.

Yet everyone blows his character traits all out of proportion.

Exactly. And unfortunately, JJ Abrams seems to be sufficiently unfamiliar with the character that his version was the cartoon pop-culturally-misremembered parody.

The wonderful and lengthy analysis on this "Kirk Drift" is worth a read: http://strangehorizons.com/non-fiction/ ... irk-drift/

[Yukaphile]

Tbf, a LOT of that article can be applied to other stuff too, that we're looking back with 100 years of baby steps forward as a society and perhaps judge people from the past too harshly. Growing pains is still something our infant civilization needs to overcome if we're ever going to have any hope of standing on our own two feet...

[MightyDavidson]

It is customary to provide illustrative examples/evidence when attempting to put forward an Alternate Character Interpretation (TV Tropes, look it up). You have not done so, and thus I don't think much of anything about your topic.

Gotta say, though, that if Kirk's objective is to "impregnate anything with a vagina," then he totally dropped the ball compared to, say, Genghis Khan, given that between Where No Man Has Gone Before and Star Trek 6, we see exactly one Kirk Jr. (unless I'm forgetting something major) So that's strike one.

As far as killing the fake-god in Star Trek 5, I'd like to point out that it was Spock who pulled the trigger. Also, it did threaten to kill Kirk, Bones and (presumably) Spock "terribly," so turnabout is fair play. strike two.

If this were Baseball, I'd need a strike three to "win," but it's not.

There was no evidence in any of Kirk's encounters with Klingons during the series, that he hated them as a species. He wasn't particularly fond of them granted but the only time Kirk ever claimed to hate Klingons was after one killed his son and, if I'm not mistaken, he might have been drunk at the time. I think that might qualify for strike three.