Feminism and history

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Given that several state governments are actively seeking to get Roe v Wade thrown out, I'd say there is strong evidence for it being needed if only to stop some people from turning back the clock.

The clock should be turmned back on some things, not all , but some.

This approach is reductive.

"Women have too many rights already! I'm angry at some of the things feminism achieved in the past!"

I guess every idea coming out of your sacred sister + brotherhood shits gold...

You wanna clarify which rights you think we should scale back and which things feminism already achieved that were mistakes?

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I mean, rape culture, victim-blaming, patriarchy, historical revision, and group hatred is still part of our genetic makeup. Those make for a baaaad combination for today's society.

I wouldn't say any of that is part of our genetic make-up at all. Look at the Bonobo. 99% similar to us or something similar to that?
They got around the male physical strength advantage to form a matriarchy is a rather clever way: every time a male tries something against a female, EVERY other female in the group attacks that male. He is a match for one or two females but he isn't a match for all of them.
I am not advocating that in real life, but I don't think its unrealistic to say it could not have worked in real life either.

It stands to reason, that early human societies were matriarchal as well. It apparently changed somewhere during the late stages of hunter-gatherer societies and the changes brought by the the neolithic revolution, as far as we can tell today.

Knowledge of the day: Humans are genetically closer related to both Bonobos and Chimpanzees, than either of those to each other.

Maybe, but I'm wary of anything somebody positively asserts about human prehistory. There's way too much modern mythologizing in that field.

[Yukaphile]

Presentism.

[clearspira]

I mean, rape culture, victim-blaming, patriarchy, historical revision, and group hatred is still part of our genetic makeup. Those make for a baaaad combination for today's society.

I wouldn't say any of that is part of our genetic make-up at all. Look at the Bonobo. 99% similar to us or something similar to that?
They got around the male physical strength advantage to form a matriarchy is a rather clever way: every time a male tries something against a female, EVERY other female in the group attacks that male. He is a match for one or two females but he isn't a match for all of them.
I am not advocating that in real life, but I don't think its unrealistic to say it could not have worked in real life either.

It stands to reason, that early human societies were matriarchal as well. It apparently changed somewhere during the late stages of hunter-gatherer societies and the changes brought by the the neolithic revolution, as far as we can tell today.

Knowledge of the day: Humans are genetically closer related to both Bonobos and Chimpanzees, than either of those to each other.

Maybe, but I'm wary of anything somebody positively asserts about human prehistory. There's way too much modern mythologizing in that field.

Such as?

[Yukaphile]

Look up Presentism, clearspira. Applying values from today to the past.

[Makeshift Python]

Wait... you mean to imply Jesus wasn’t a blue eyes caucasian?

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I mean, rape culture, victim-blaming, patriarchy, historical revision, and group hatred is still part of our genetic makeup. Those make for a baaaad combination for today's society.

I wouldn't say any of that is part of our genetic make-up at all. Look at the Bonobo. 99% similar to us or something similar to that?
They got around the male physical strength advantage to form a matriarchy is a rather clever way: every time a male tries something against a female, EVERY other female in the group attacks that male. He is a match for one or two females but he isn't a match for all of them.
I am not advocating that in real life, but I don't think its unrealistic to say it could not have worked in real life either.

It stands to reason, that early human societies were matriarchal as well. It apparently changed somewhere during the late stages of hunter-gatherer societies and the changes brought by the the neolithic revolution, as far as we can tell today.

Knowledge of the day: Humans are genetically closer related to both Bonobos and Chimpanzees, than either of those to each other.

Maybe, but I'm wary of anything somebody positively asserts about human prehistory. There's way too much modern mythologizing in that field.

Such as?

Try the entire discipline of evolutionary psychology. Ruyard Kipling's estate should sue them for royalties.

[Karha of Honor]

Wait... you mean to imply Jesus wasn’t a blue eyes caucasian?

That's the brand, i don't see the brand changing anytime soon. The branding worked...

Given that several state governments are actively seeking to get Roe v Wade thrown out, I'd say there is strong evidence for it being needed if only to stop some people from turning back the clock.

The clock should be turmned back on some things, not all , but some.

This approach is reductive.

"Women have too many rights already! I'm angry at some of the things feminism achieved in the past!"

I guess every idea coming out of your sacred sister + brotherhood shits gold...

You wanna clarify which rights you think we should scale back and which things feminism already achieved that were mistakes?

My original statement was more widely focused.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Either shit or get off the pot.

[Karha of Honor]

Either shit or get off the pot.

Kick me off it if you can.