Movie blogs from an unwoke perspective?

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Makeshift Python wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:55 pm
Darth Wedgius wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:23 pm What inhumane? How many people have died or been seriously injured by these inhumane conditions? Is it that the kids didn't have toothbrushes for a while?
Try living in their conditions. I’m sure you’ll be able to shrug it off like it was not a big deal.
"Unpleasant" and "inhumane" are not the same thing.
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Darth Wedgius wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:03 am
Makeshift Python wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:55 pm
Darth Wedgius wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:23 pm What inhumane? How many people have died or been seriously injured by these inhumane conditions? Is it that the kids didn't have toothbrushes for a while?
Try living in their conditions. I’m sure you’ll be able to shrug it off like it was not a big deal.
"Unpleasant" and "inhumane" are not the same thing.
I'm gonna guess when they're called torture: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/doctor-compares-conditions-immigrant-holding-centers-torture-facilities/story?id=63879031&cid=social_twitter_abcn

When seven children have died in a single year (compared to zero in 10 prior years): https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/why-are-migrant-children-dying-u-s-custody-n1010316

When 24 people have died in custody, and 4 have been "North Korea released" (released to die soon after release): https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3k3jd3/the-trump-administration-has-let-24-people-die-in-ice-custody

I'm going to guess that it's slightly worse than the time mom took the computer out of your room before grounding you.
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Psshhh, I sleep on concrete floors all the time, big deal! So what if I’m forced to shit in my own pants? At least I’m kept alive, until I’m not!

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GreyICE wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:59 am
Darth Wedgius wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:03 am
Makeshift Python wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:55 pm
Darth Wedgius wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:23 pm What inhumane? How many people have died or been seriously injured by these inhumane conditions? Is it that the kids didn't have toothbrushes for a while?
Try living in their conditions. I’m sure you’ll be able to shrug it off like it was not a big deal.
"Unpleasant" and "inhumane" are not the same thing.
I'm gonna guess when they're called torture: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/doctor-compares-conditions-immigrant-holding-centers-torture-facilities/story?id=63879031&cid=social_twitter_abcn

When seven children have died in a single year (compared to zero in 10 prior years): https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/why-are-migrant-children-dying-u-s-custody-n1010316

When 24 people have died in custody, and 4 have been "North Korea released" (released to die soon after release): https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3k3jd3/the-trump-administration-has-let-24-people-die-in-ice-custody

I'm going to guess that it's slightly worse than the time mom took the computer out of your room before grounding you.
It's a lot worse than the time mom took the computer out of my room before grounding me... which she never did. But again, unpleasant and inhumane are not the same thing.

Number one, they weren't called torture, they were called similar to torture facilities. Number two, that was one guy's opinion; if we go by the "someone called it torture" standard, every school in the U.S. might have to be closed down.

24 people have died in ICE custody? OK, how many people have been processed? In FY2018, 396,448. That's a death rate of 0.000060538, or 0.0060538%. I think that's less than stellar evidence of inhumane conditions.
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/06/politics/ice-detention-center-ig-report/index.html

What do you think of the US Government's own report?

I get the impression that you've gathered your opinions and used them to form the facts.
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Which facts have I cited that are objectively incorrect?

Maybe it's a definition thing. I think of "inhumane" as borderline unlivable, not "this restroom looks like a gas station's."
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Makeshift Python wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:56 am Psshhh, I sleep on concrete floors all the time, big deal! So what if I’m forced to shit in my own pants? At least I’m kept alive, until I’m not!

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You're not helping your case.
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A bit of added detail might raise that to the level of being helpful.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I think we can close it now.
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