Conspiracy Theories and Pedophilia

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

It's generalizing to say that it is doing exactly what it depicts as wrong. There's a lot of things you can say about the documentary that aren't true about what it depicts.

Like, the n-word for instance; there is a huge public reaction if any non POC says the word. It doesn't matter the context, just that it was uttered and publicized to some extent. The problem with the word though can be described with much more nuance than "it exists in some form at the moment and is being said by the same type of person as coined it originally." It has a history and connotation of subjugation, which makes it highly problematic under even general circumstances though when considered in context.

[GreyICE]

And this is how crazy people make arguments. If we actually parse the charges leveled against Comet Pizza - that the Democrats were using it as an underground pedophile ring with the secret pass phrase "cheese pizza" for the child sex parties in the basement that didn't exist - they don't hold up under any level of scrutiny.

• There is no evidence of children being sexually trafficked through Comet Pizza
• There's no evidence of some "democrat staffer child sex party", in fact they seemed to be eating... pizza
• There's no fucking basement. The children were supposedly held in the basement of a pizza place that doesn't have a basement.

Of course anyone who points out that the entire evidence for the existence of this "child sex ring" is that Democrats order cheese pizza from a pizza parlor is "defending pedophilia" which is "the agenda of the LGBT movement".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

In 2020, Pizzagate became a pillar of the far-right QAnon conspiracy theory and less U.S.-centric in nature, with videos and posts on the topic in Italy, Brazil, Turkey and other countries worldwide each gaining millions of views each.[12] This new iteration is less partisan; most of the (mostly teenage) promoters of the #PizzaGate hashtag on TikTok were not right-wing, and support the Black Lives Matter movement.[11] It focuses on an alleged global elite of child sex-traffickers, ranging from politicians to powerful businesspeople and celebrities such as Bill Gates, Ellen DeGeneres, Oprah Winfrey and Chrissy Teigen.[12] Justin Bieber's 2020 song Yummy was alleged to be about the conspiracy theory, and rekindled support for the theory that year. The conspiracy theory gained traction when Venezuelan YouTuber, Dross Rotzank, made a video about Bieber's music video and its alleged references to Pizzagate. Rotzank's video gained 3 million views in two days and led "Pizzagate" to become a trending topic on the Spanish-language Twitter.[94] Adherents of the theory also believe that Bieber gave a coded signal admitting as such in a later Instagram Live video, where he touched his beanie after being asked to do so in the chat if he was a victim of Pizzagate (however, there is no indication that Bieber saw this comment).[95]

In April, a documentary promoting Pizzagate, Out of Shadows, was made by a former Hollywood stuntman and released on YouTube. TikTok users began promoting both Out of the Shadows and the alleged Bieber association until the #PizzaGate hashtag was banned by the company.[12][11] The New York Times said in June 2020 that posts on the platform with the #PizzaGate hashtag were "viewed more than 82 million times in recent months", and Google searches for the term also increased in that time. They also note that "In the first week of June, comments, likes and shares of PizzaGate also spiked to more than 800,000 on Facebook and nearly 600,000 on Instagram, according to data from CrowdTangle ... That compares with 512,000 interactions on Facebook and 93,000 on Instagram during the first week of December 2016. From the start of 2017 through January of 2020, the average number of weekly PizzaGate mentions, likes and shares on Facebook and Instagram was under 20,000".[12]

In August 2020, Facebook temporarily suspended use of the "savethechildren" hashtag, when it was used to promote elements of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory.[96]

But there is a little boy being dressed in drag (likely by his parents) and dancing for tips in a strip joint, and people were called homophobes and transphobes for pointing out how wrong that is.

It's amazing how you're completely incapable of saying "the Pizzagate nutters were a bunch of whackos, and it's absurd that we had people working with Trump who were tweeting out this shit, or that a right winger shot up Comet Pizza over it."

It's like you are totally, absolutely incapable of doing anything but trying to go on the offensive. Even to protest the completely indefensible.

[King Green]

Can we please create SOME clarity before Chuck kicks half of us off the forums for being too political and narcissistic.

Besides, Pizzagate never had any peado/endo/infant/featus-lovers before the newest generation of employees in 2018, early March.
No one can ever forgive why lovers like these are allowed on the streets yet its the same satire and Poe's Law that LGBT+ folk face when we look back at recent history.

For many of their action are mixed, at best. Child-lovers do have a civil and national right to care for new generations, not always for children but for difficult and different cultures who are visiting and migrating.

We forcibly changed our values due to either a lot of environmental pressure or more likely en-mass manipulation from a random rumor that became too catchy.
It can't be reversed.

Just learn to grow, live life and laugh.

[Antiboyscout]

But there is a little boy being dressed in drag (likely by his parents) and dancing for tips in a strip joint, and people were called homophobes and transphobes for pointing out how wrong that is.

It's amazing how you're completely incapable of saying "the Pizzagate nutters were a bunch of whackos, and it's absurd that we had people working with Trump who were tweeting out this shit, or that a right winger shot up Comet Pizza over it."

It's like you are totally, absolutely incapable of doing anything but trying to go on the offensive. Even to protest the completely indefensible.

I'm sorry for not acknowledging your deflection. I know you really want my argument to be about pizza gate but it isn't.

Meanwhile, if you want to play the "disavow or you're with them" game. Disavow Cuties and child drag stars.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Can we please create SOME clarity before Chuck kicks half of us off the forums for being too political and narcissistic.

Besides, Pizzagate never had any peado/endo/infant/featus-lovers before the newest generation of employees in 2018, early March.
No one can ever forgive why lovers like these are allowed on the streets yet its the same satire and Poe's Law that LGBT+ folk face when we look back at recent history.

For many of their action are mixed, at best. Child-lovers do have a civil and national right to care for new generations, not always for children but for difficult and different cultures who are visiting and migrating.

We forcibly changed our values due to either a lot of environmental pressure or more likely en-mass manipulation from a random rumor that became too catchy.
It can't be reversed.

Just learn to grow, live life and laugh.

What the frell are you talking about? I cannot understand a damn sentence you type.

Also I'd point out the vast majority of pedophiles are straight men, and that they usually target children they know and have power over rather than strangers, but I don't think that's likely to be accepted or even considered by the likes of ABS.

[Madner Kami]

Isn't it funny? What is so hard about saying, that sexualizing children is bad and that supporting and buying into conspiracy theories the likes of Qanon is bad as well? There, I did it. I denounced both. What is so hard for you all to do the same? This is the third page of the thread circling about "our" leftists not being able to say "Both is bad" and "our" rightists not being able to say "Both is bad". I know you all think that both is bad and stupid (outside of maybe King Green, as I am not always certain what he is on about) and yet you "stand your ground" insisting that the other side says "their part" first.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Somebody made a chart

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13C1JrX63Ff8OuuGvvUbHvRYveqKEEHBW/view

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Somebody made a chart https://drive.google.com/file/d/13C1JrX63Ff8OuuGvvUbHvRYveqKEEHBW/view

Just FYI, if you put the URL on its own line space in the text then it makes it extremely convenient to highlight it in chrome with a triple click, to which you can easily right click to the destination.

[King Green]

Somebody made a chart

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13C1JrX63Ff8OuuGvvUbHvRYveqKEEHBW/view

Chrome won't load that chart. Possibility of company sabotage or bad-glitch?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Somebody made a chart

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13C1JrX63Ff8OuuGvvUbHvRYveqKEEHBW/view

Chrome won't load that chart. Possibility of company sabotage or bad-glitch?

You ever think maybe it's you and not Chrome?