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Will people watch the same movies in theatres and at home?

What if the CCP steps it's game up chasing out American movies with quality which they are pursuing you never know...


Chinese market lost as we know it now.


India can step it's game up, Russian investors can step their game up.


A lot of American qoute unqoute uniter movies are movies made for the global market.


Entertainment media is uniquely politicized now, making the nUS market different from the last time US releases made the most money.

Its called globalisation. What's dying is the era where your (as in everyone's not just the US) country was the centre of the Earth.

I heard that stuff like The Meg was made with a specific purpose to be able to get footing in China. I can see a subset of American films taking up that little niche.

Bollywood's been around for a while. They have a strong game I hear, but that their movies overall have a uniform structure in terms of genre overlay and comprisement.

Supposedly either of them could capture world market share, but I kinda doubt western market share anyway. And that would just entail the end of the golden age for global returns for American films.

As far as media being politicized, not sure what you're getting at there. Like, movies about politics? That's just silly.

It could well be. Domestic movie attendance has been on a steady decline for a long time now, for whatever reason(s). More recently, Hollywood is left of center and the culture war is getting more and more bitterly fought; just look at critics vs. audiences on Ghostbuster (2016), The Last Jedi, or Bruce Willis's Death Wish. With the Chinese disdain for "baizuo," I might end up more interested in films from China than Hollywood, just as manga is supposedly making increading inroads in U.S. comic consumption.

The video games industry has been bigger than Hollywood for a while now, and with streaming available I have a lot less reason to go see a movie even if I'm in a "my interaction is limited to clicking the button, just entertain me while I sit back and imitate a vegetable" mood. If my wife wants to see one, I'll do it without complaint, but I've walked away from Marvel, Star Wars, and Warner Brothers, and I haven't missed them.

People have been talking about the end of event movies and event television forever. Kinda hard to buy that when Disney alone accounts for over a third of the market share in 2019 and seems to have a movie breaking $1 billion every few weeks. The difference between Endgame and The Force Awakens basically is China. So, I'd say we're closer to a monopoly than ever. Of course it's true that in the last few years there's been concentrated efforts to appeal to global audiences rather than just domestically.

You can make a better case for television, especially if you assume (as appears very likely) that netflix will be losing stock as different companies keep the rights for their shows to air on their own streaming services. Even so, not long ago Breaking Bad was going to be the last show everybody watched. Then it was Game of Thrones. I wouldn't bet that there won't be another Game of Thrones in the future.

BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:12 pm Bollywood's been around for a while. They have a strong game I hear, but that their movies overall have a uniform structure in terms of genre overlay and comprisement.

As far as media being politicized, not sure what you're getting at there. Like, movies about politics? That's just silly.

Seeing that Bollywood is very niche in west I can't see them taking over from Hollywood so biggest treat to Hollywood today are streaming services and video games that are taking away audience from movies but still there has been enough audience for movies and making Avengers: End Game more successful than James Cameron's Avatar.

I think he means with that that based on him and others that share his views Hollywood is some how pushing political agenda that he doesn't agree with.

clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:46 pm Its called globalisation. What's dying is the era where your (as in everyone's not just the US) country was the centre of the Earth.

Yes and no.

BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:12 pm I heard that stuff like The Meg was made with a specific purpose to be able to get footing in China. I can see a subset of American films taking up that little niche.

Bollywood's been around for a while. They have a strong game I hear, but that their movies overall have a uniform structure in terms of genre overlay and comprisement.

Supposedly either of them could capture world market share, but I kinda doubt western market share anyway. And that would just entail the end of the golden age for global returns for American films.

As far as media being politicized, not sure what you're getting at there. Like, movies about politics? That's just silly.

Specifically blockbuster projects becoming that in a way that is bad for the IP.

ChiggyvonRichthofen wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:05 pm People have been talking about the end of event movies and event television forever. Kinda hard to buy that when Disney alone accounts for over a third of the market share in 2019 and seems to have a movie breaking $1 billion every few weeks. The difference between Endgame and The Force Awakens basically is China. So, I'd say we're closer to a monopoly than ever. Of course it's true that in the last few years there's been concentrated efforts to appeal to global audiences rather than just domestically.

But they pretty much started their own Star Wars civil war...

Considering their SW IP management inompetence why cannot the MCU decline?

Karha of Honor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:42 am

ChiggyvonRichthofen wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:05 pm People have been talking about the end of event movies and event television forever. Kinda hard to buy that when Disney alone accounts for over a third of the market share in 2019 and seems to have a movie breaking $1 billion every few weeks. The difference between Endgame and The Force Awakens basically is China. So, I'd say we're closer to a monopoly than ever. Of course it's true that in the last few years there's been concentrated efforts to appeal to global audiences rather than just domestically.

But they pretty much started their own Star Wars civil war...

Considering their SW IP management inompetence why cannot the MCU decline?

I do think they mismanaged Star Wars, but with just one exception, these movies are still making billions of dollars and outgrossing the prequels.

The MCU will decline at some point, but that's exactly what people (including myself) have been predicting for a long time, and yet it keeps getting bigger and bigger. I thought it might happen with the latest Spiderman movie, that people might finally be fatigued after Endgame, and yet it was yet another huge hit. Besides that, Disney keeps acquiring rights to produce more and more popular things.

So no, despite their crocodile tears, I don't buy that big companies are hurting at all. Overall declining box office numbers are coming from the smaller studios. Globalization and ease of marketing online hasn't meant a bunch of smaller shares, it's meant the little guy gets crowded out.

I'd like to see either/or French and German films make it big onto the global stage. After all, American film history owes a bit to them.

ChiggyvonRichthofen wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:36 pm

Karha of Honor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:42 am

ChiggyvonRichthofen wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:05 pm People have been talking about the end of event movies and event television forever. Kinda hard to buy that when Disney alone accounts for over a third of the market share in 2019 and seems to have a movie breaking $1 billion every few weeks. The difference between Endgame and The Force Awakens basically is China. So, I'd say we're closer to a monopoly than ever. Of course it's true that in the last few years there's been concentrated efforts to appeal to global audiences rather than just domestically.

But they pretty much started their own Star Wars civil war...

Considering their SW IP management inompetence why cannot the MCU decline?

I do think they mismanaged Star Wars, but with just one exception, these movies are still making billions of dollars and outgrossing the prequels.

The MCU will decline at some point, but that's exactly what people (including myself) have been predicting for a long time, and yet it keeps getting bigger and bigger. I thought it might happen with the latest Spiderman movie, that people might finally be fatigued after Endgame, and yet it was yet another huge hit. Besides that, Disney keeps acquiring rights to produce more and more popular things.

So no, despite their crocodile tears, I don't buy that big companies are hurting at all. Overall declining box office numbers are coming from the smaller studios. Globalization and ease of marketing online hasn't meant a bunch of smaller shares, it's meant the little guy gets crowded out.

How they are not hurting? Why did Fox get sold in that case?I never said smaller studios are not hurting.

We will see about the little guy long term. Last tyiem i read about them Blumhouse was doing okay.

I would wait on the marketing thing. The digital space the MCU started in was different also i could see some major entertainment and news sites going away.

I wanna see the final TLJ + Politics damage report in a few years.

Also they added to bad stack the prequels were already in...