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Actually not all Evolutionists agree on there being no set path.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 4:46 pm
by MithrandirOlorin
I know one of Chuck's Pet Peeves is when a SciFi story acts like Evolution is somehow predestined and he seems to think that is infect fundamentally in conflict with the actual Science. But the truth is there are Evolutionists he feel Evolution isn't random at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sPBF1o4a4U

youtu.be/sPBF1o4a4U

Re: Actually not all Evolutionists agree on there being no set path.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 6:33 pm
by GreyICE
"Evolutionists"

So evolutionary biologists then. Evolution is a key part of biology from the high school level on up.

Also your stupid video is dead.

Re: Actually not all Evolutionists agree on there being no set path.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 6:38 pm
by TGLS
The top link works but the bottom link doesn't

Re: Actually not all Evolutionists agree on there being no set path.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 6:46 pm
by GreyICE
And so it does. Oh boy. You know it's good when you start "does evolution have to divide from religion". Uh, no. Every major world religion accepts evolution. The holdouts are a few extremist Muslims/Christians who demand Koran/Bible literalism, and some HIndus who try to fit everything into their cyclical creation. Oh, and some radical communists who think evolution is a capitalist theory.

That's basically it. We can summarize them all as "kooks".

Re: Actually not all Evolutionists agree on there being no set path.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 6:48 pm
by ChiggyvonRichthofen
I think you're mischaracterizing Chuck's point a bit. Evolution is a mechanism(s). The question of meaning/purpose is metaphysical/philosophical, not scientific. So saying that science/evolution has a plan- which is what I recall Chuck complaining about in reviewing various Star Trek episodes- is nonsensical no matter what your philosophical opinions might be.

Re: Actually not all Evolutionists agree on there being no set path.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 11:04 pm
by J!!
I have litterally never seen the word 'evolutionist' used by anyone who had even a vague understanding of the theory of evolution.

Re: Actually not all Evolutionists agree on there being no set path.

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 1:50 am
by MithrandirOlorin
I see ya'll getting caught on the opening.

Re: Actually not all Evolutionists agree on there being no set path.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:15 pm
by Riedquat
Summarise then, rather than stick up a video that'll make most people turn it off after a minute.

Re: Actually not all Evolutionists agree on there being no set path.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:28 pm
by GreyICE
MithrandirOlorin wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 1:50 am I see ya'll getting caught on the opening.
Well yes, when someone opens with an idea that's completely counterfactual it's very hard to move past that.

For instance if a video opens "back when humans rode dinosaurs" most people are not going to get to minute twenty, if you see my point.

Re: Actually not all Evolutionists agree on there being no set path.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:20 am
by MithrandirOlorin
The opening acknowledges the existence of YECs but is in fact agaisnt them, that's what every responder doesn't seem to get.