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Generations and nonsense

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:14 pm
by TGLS
Rocketboy1313 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:46 pm
TGLS wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:33 am

Naw, you're among the last of Gen-X:

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Generation timeline
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I find it so silly that we are continuing the alphabet thing from X.
The reason they were called generation "X" related to that generation not being defined by anything. They were the alienated Generation being told that history was over with, and that all the important stuff had already been done. They just had to get on their personal computers and work on all the random little stuff.
Had any of that proven true they would have been called the "mop up" generation and the millenials would have been called the "Indigo Children".
I'm going to break this out from the 2020 election.

Naming and defining generations is tricky business. Often, the crest of one generation happens at the same time the trough of the previous. This leads to weird conundrums where the guy said to define Gen X was a late Boomer by one measure and an early X-er by the other.

The other problem is the idea a generation is a meaningful concept. Strauss-Howe build this enormous pseudoscientific theory around this idea. It all ends up crashing into trying to bind people born about two decades apart into one group. The only time this may have worked was with the Boomers who were born in a larger clump than the others.

Re: Generations and nonsense

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:43 am
by BridgeConsoleMasher
The baby boomers were a very specific parameter of people compared to how we have to determine it now. And the effect of GIs coming home happened to be a consistent phenomena in the western world.

Really if you think about the breadth of effect that Covid has, I bet we're likely to see a pretty consistent orchestration of demographics after about 18 years.

Re: Generations and nonsense

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:22 pm
by McAvoy
I always felt that we had truly three concrete generations. The pre-WW1 generation that fought in it. Grew up in the late Victorian Era, made babies that became the 'Greatest Generation' that lived through the Great Depression and then fought in WW2. Then made babies that became the Baby Boomers.

Then we got Gen X, Millenials and Gen Y. Supposedly the new generation that is being born now is being called Gen Alpha or something. But these post Baby Boomer generations are harder to figure out where they start and end.

It's one of the reasons why we got something called Xetenials. Hybrid Gen X and the oldest Millenials. This is due to the oldest Millenials are more connected to Gen X then the youngest. The youngest who would havd grown up with computers and internet being a more mature tech where as Xetenials would have seen the birth of the internet. And all its rough parts. Like fucking Geocities.

Re: Generations and nonsense

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:41 pm
by BridgeConsoleMasher
The internet increasingly broke divides between in crowds and out crowds as they develop in high school. The 90's celebrated counter culture as a lot more hip than the American Psycho development of the 80's, while you also had the internet where out crowds became more prominent. Social convention stopped being associated as being lost on geeks more and more and people like geeky stuff became less of an outlier in depiction.

What I'm getting at though, is that GenX wasn't really born with the internet, subscribed to earlier in-crowd out-crowd dynamics, and put away their childish things when they left high school or more or less became James Rolfe or MovieBob. A lot of millennials didn't stop playing video games, and they also didn't follow the predesigned rubric of middle-age convention, which is why stuff like Hooters started closing down.

Re: Generations and nonsense

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:18 pm
by Draco Dracul
McAvoy wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:22 pm Then we got Gen X, Millenials and Gen Y. Supposedly the new generation that is being born now is being called Gen Alpha or something. But these post Baby Boomer generations are harder to figure out where they start and end.
I actually think there is a fairly easy way to distinguish between Millenials and Gen Z, if you can't remember 9/11 you're Gen Z.

Re: Generations and nonsense

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:25 pm
by TGLS
What if you're obtuse and can remember other things before 9/11?

Re: Generations and nonsense

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:55 pm
by BridgeConsoleMasher
Generation Y is completely normalized with computers and often doesn't understand what analog technology is. They pick up the game controller to watch TV like that's all it's ever been like. They're not much different than the millenials down the road until it's just a matter of the parents that start coming from later generations with different root values.

Re: Generations and nonsense

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:28 pm
by Draco Dracul
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:55 pm Generation Y is completely normalized with computers and often doesn't understand what analog technology is. They pick up the game controller to watch TV like that's all it's ever been like. They're not much different than the millenials down the road until it's just a matter of the parents that start coming from later generations with different root values.
Gen Y is another name for the Millenials.

Re: Generations and nonsense

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:50 pm
by BridgeConsoleMasher
Draco Dracul wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:28 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:55 pm Generation Y is completely normalized with computers and often doesn't understand what analog technology is. They pick up the game controller to watch TV like that's all it's ever been like. They're not much different than the millenials down the road until it's just a matter of the parents that start coming from later generations with different root values.
Gen Y is another name for the Millenials.
I'll be the judge of that. jk

Re: Generations and nonsense

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:35 pm
by Riedquat
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:41 pm What I'm getting at though, is that GenX wasn't really born with the internet, subscribed to earlier in-crowd out-crowd dynamics, and put away their childish things when they left high school or more or less became James Rolfe or MovieBob. A lot of millennials didn't stop playing video games, and they also didn't follow the predesigned rubric of middle-age convention, which is why stuff like Hooters started closing down.
Certainly no internet when I was a child but plenty of computer games (see my username and avatar), although I'm at the late end of X. I get the impression I'm of a similar age to Chuck and looking around at the reviews I doubt he stopped playing games either.