Stargate SG-1 Review - 1969

[Captain Crimson]

Stargate was also balanced by a dense of continuity lore-building. Can they maintain that? Humor is fine and the only time I allow for continuity breaks.

What will the world of the Tau'ri even BE like in the 10 years since it went off the air? Especially in the age of the streaming wars and demands for topical social commentary?

[clearspira]

I like episodes like this. I find it kinda fun to watch established characters in weird situations outside their comfort zone, and time travel is automatically that. Though I agree, some kind of resolution for the hippies would have been nice. I feel like time travel stories need to have characters like this wrapped into the main plot in some way. Maybe one of them could have worked on the DHD replacement systems or something, characters like that are made for that kind of thing.

THIS!

The only thing, that really irked me, was the weird reaction, Jack and Sam had, when Michael said "I don't want to kill anyone."
Jack downright snaps at him, Carter yelling "Sir, that's something he has to decide for himself!"
Who is this Michael-dude and why is Jack reacting the way, he reacts?
Besides that it's a totally fine episode, I'd go so far and say it's recommended. Not required, but - recommended.

Concerning the later discussion: Dudes, just relax.
As long as Stargate has humour in it, it's gonna be a fine Stargate-Show. I don't care, if the policital message is "heavy handed" - I didn't care with the Hathor-Episode, I don't care about the "reproductive organs"-line, I don't care, that the "Emancipation"-Episode allegedly is bad: I like them.
These episodes - the ten years of Stargate - were my teenage-to-young-adult-years and I honestly like them.
to me, there is not one single bad episode in the bunch, even something like the "Talion"-Episode, which deals with Teal'C going on a revenge-killing-spree, incapacitating his team in the process, is something, which I don't hate.
Why? because even these episodes had their moments of levity, where you could laugh with or about the characters.
Stargate Atlantis did the same thing.

the only Stargate-iteration, I honestly despise is Stargate: Universe, since the humour has gone missing.

And I can forgive lots of stupidity, as long as you can smile along - which is why I don't have a problem with the Whedon-Cut of Justice League, but with the alleged "better" Snyder-Cut, which is your typical Snyder-Movie, taking itself way too seriously.

Regarding Jack and Sam, I smell the scent of a deleted scene. My guess is that Jack as a Gulf war vet who did time in one of Saddam's prisons for his country probably does not have much sympathy for draft dodgers. Carter, being free of the burden of machismo and having a NASA background will not be as black and white.

[clearspira]

Stargate was also balanced by a dense of continuity lore-building. Can they maintain that? Humor is fine and the only time I allow for continuity breaks.

What will the world of the Tau'ri even BE like in the 10 years since it went off the air? Especially in the age of the streaming wars and demands for topical social commentary?

I would like the masquerade to end in any sequel. Keeping the whole galaxy secret from the civvies of Earth got bit morally dubious by the end. Lets have Stargate the Babylon 5 years.

[Beelzquill]

I liked the episode but Chuck is right about it being something I never needed to see again. Nothing wrong with that, just a fine episode.

[Taurian Patriot]

But I fully acknowledge it would probably come out terrible. Either be a CW level teen/young adult drama with a bunch of beautiful people whining how their lives are so hard because they are beautiful or it would be SG Universe 2.0 where its younger and hipper like the 200 episode parodied.

My hope is that the writing staff for a Stargate reboot would be seated into a room, made to watch "200," and told "All that you just saw? Don't do that."

(Although a subplot of Teal'c working as a private detective in his personal time would be kind of great.)

[Scififan]

I personally think that Stargate had a really good run and it doesn't need a reboot.

[McAvoy]

Stargate was also balanced by a dense of continuity lore-building. Can they maintain that? Humor is fine and the only time I allow for continuity breaks.

What will the world of the Tau'ri even BE like in the 10 years since it went off the air? Especially in the age of the streaming wars and demands for topical social commentary?

I would like the masquerade to end in any sequel. Keeping the whole galaxy secret from the civvies of Earth got bit morally dubious by the end. Lets have Stargate the Babylon 5 years.

Their was alot of talk behind the scenes of making the Stargate public in the later episodes. I think the Atlantis movie was supposed to do that.

Honestly, the franchise itself is in a awkward situation. Rebooting it may turn off old viewers especially if it's not like the original series. Continuing on from where the whole franchise left off ten years ago makes it less and less like the modern world and more science fiction.

Remember SGC has ships, powerful ones at that. With energy beam weapons, FTL, shields and even transporters. Given that we have seen that they can build those ships in roughly 18-24 month increments in pairs, the Tauri could have a decent sized fleet by 2021.

[Swiftbow]

Yeah, I never wanted a Stargate reboot. I just wanted the final movie that would have brought back Jack for one final hurrah and handled the unfinished plotline with making the Stargate program public. That was really the only thread left hanging.

I also would have liked if Ark of Truth had a less hackneyed/overused plot device for dealing with the Ori, but oh well. Continuum was a pretty awesome movie.

[Captain Crimson]

Stargate was also balanced by a dense of continuity lore-building. Can they maintain that? Humor is fine and the only time I allow for continuity breaks.

What will the world of the Tau'ri even BE like in the 10 years since it went off the air? Especially in the age of the streaming wars and demands for topical social commentary?

I would like the masquerade to end in any sequel. Keeping the whole galaxy secret from the civvies of Earth got bit morally dubious by the end. Lets have Stargate the Babylon 5 years.

Yeah, I agree. Especially since the creatives had wanted to reveal the secret anyway. I know we've seen alternate timelines where that didn't go so well, but come on. Just don't make any new series go that way. Dropping the masquerade broke us. And yet it's all too easy to see the creatives doing that with the breakout success of NuBSG (ending aside) and GoT (barring S8). H, that's why SGU went the way it did. I want some good optimism, that we can be okay. Is that so hard to ask in this increasingly depressive world?

But really, what would the new series even explore? Think about it. The System Lords have been beaten, the Replicators and their Asuran counterparts have been dealt with, the Ori wiped out and their followers deprogrammed thanks to the AoT, the Jaffa are free, and though SGA's plotline ended very quickly, you could feel that the Wraith were on the path toward being cured of the need to feed on humans and that Todd was totally on board with that. To bring in a new enemy requires to explain how they never got involved in any prior crisis, which is certainly possible if they were extragalactic. Will they do that?

I know Anubis is still out there, fighting Oma Desala, but still, I feel as if to bring him back would be a retread. I dunno, what do you think?

Heading out. Later! Just stopped by for a quick peek.

[CaptainCalvinCat]

Well, let’s be honest: We kinda brought this “depressing storytelling” kinda onto ourselves, now, didn’t we? We watched Nu BSG, we gave it the ratings it got, so the TPTB of Stargate said “Hey, that shit gets better ratings than our shows, so our new show must reflect that.”

We watched and praised the less “campy” adventures of Jason Bourne, so the creators of the top dog James Bond - in this case: MGM - felt threatened and decided to do something like that with their latest endeavour in the Bond-Universe, that was “Casino Royale” at that point in time.

You watched and praised the less campy “Dark Knight”-Trillogy, which always annoyed me, since I was one of the three, who actually liked the more campy Batman & Robin - but the grim-gritty-growly-voice put butts in the seat, so of course that was the way to tell stories for the next decades. And when a movie tries to be as fun as the improved Justice League - not the slogfest of Snyder, mind you - then people are moaning, that this is not *their* Justice League.

Gotta be honest: I want the camp back, I want the optimism back - and if that means, that the Stargate Franchise is now openly woke, then I have no problem with it.