Voyager Scorpion

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Re: Voyager Scorpion

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McAvoy wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 4:06 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:18 pm The drones needn't really be armor capable by general directive. They're not really soldiers for one, and they're utterly expendable in design. The "perfection goal" is pretty much the issue, but their spin on it is that it's completely towards the collective and quite literally nothing towards the individual.

Nobody can take down the collective with tommy guns. They don't need to create a defense for it, just send bigger units in bearing in mind the cost of individuals vs the benefit of the goal.
Borg drones has always had be curious why they are different from each other since I first saw them in TNG. Like is there a purpose behind each being different, different capabilities or is it random?

Are each drone tailored to the organic body's natural advantages and disadvantages? Or do they randomly select each person to fill a quota? We need 1 drone to fill one spot and 12 drones fill this other spot?

Or all drones perform the same function and this is just the Borg figuring out the perfect setup for drones?

I think Seven said the Hirogen makes for great tactical drones or something.

Makes you wonder what a tactical drone would look like. More armored? Heavier shields, more weapons? Augmented physical strength?
I just always assumed that all drones have different jobs. We've seen a "medical drone" in "Dark Frontier" with a dermal regenerator hand. And the TNG drones tended to have a kind of claw thing on their hand, probably some kind of multi-tool. And, I'm going to say it, but Seven was probably allowed to keep her boobs because she appears to be a Locutus style "negotiator" drone. It didn't work on Janeway (slash-fic aside) but imagine how she would have worked on a Ferengi.

In terms of "tactical" drones I think we run into real world budget here. Those suits are probably really expensive ( I think I remember reading that they are all bodysuits with modular attachments). In-universe, there are all sorts of things the Borg should be doing to their first class drones to make them closer to Adam Jensen from Deus Ex.

The Borg just seem really fixated on swarm tactics.
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Borg drones are like cells—or at least, they were before First Contact. The cells in your body don't all look the same, either; you have red and white blood cells, skin cells, muscle cells, etc., and they all look different from each other and have different functions. None of them really have any agency on their own, though.
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Re: Voyager Scorpion

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clearspira wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:24 pm
McAvoy wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 4:06 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:18 pm The drones needn't really be armor capable by general directive. They're not really soldiers for one, and they're utterly expendable in design. The "perfection goal" is pretty much the issue, but their spin on it is that it's completely towards the collective and quite literally nothing towards the individual.

Nobody can take down the collective with tommy guns. They don't need to create a defense for it, just send bigger units in bearing in mind the cost of individuals vs the benefit of the goal.
Borg drones has always had be curious why they are different from each other since I first saw them in TNG. Like is there a purpose behind each being different, different capabilities or is it random?

Are each drone tailored to the organic body's natural advantages and disadvantages? Or do they randomly select each person to fill a quota? We need 1 drone to fill one spot and 12 drones fill this other spot?

Or all drones perform the same function and this is just the Borg figuring out the perfect setup for drones?

I think Seven said the Hirogen makes for great tactical drones or something.

Makes you wonder what a tactical drone would look like. More armored? Heavier shields, more weapons? Augmented physical strength?
I just always assumed that all drones have different jobs. We've seen a "medical drone" in "Dark Frontier" with a dermal regenerator hand. And the TNG drones tended to have a kind of claw thing on their hand, probably some kind of multi-tool. And, I'm going to say it, but Seven was probably allowed to keep her boobs because she appears to be a Locutus style "negotiator" drone. It didn't work on Janeway (slash-fic aside) but imagine how she would have worked on a Ferengi.

In terms of "tactical" drones I think we run into real world budget here. Those suits are probably really expensive ( I think I remember reading that they are all bodysuits with modular attachments). In-universe, there are all sorts of things the Borg should be doing to their first class drones to make them closer to Adam Jensen from Deus Ex.

The Borg just seem really fixated on swarm tactics.
That's what I was thinking. That we just see a small selection of drones so they coukd all look different. But when seeing them all on a Borg Cube in a lineup we may see a bunch of repeats. Medical, engineering, science, tactical, etc.

I am surprised Bernd Schneider never did a drone breakdown for the Borg on his site.
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