SG-1: Revelations

[Swiftbow]

Ba'al also would be a older God compared to the others too. If I recall correctly he was actually part of the Jewish pantheon before they went monotheistic. Like he would be 5000 years old. Or around 3000 BC.

Or we could just treat Ba'al as a unique case. Who knows the SG-1 version of Ra may have been similar.l

That's the thing within the series that Ra somehow managed to keep it all together for thousands of years until his death.

But at the same time you could argue that maybe the System Lords were more lucid early on with less use of their magic coffin.

Yeah, SG-1 Ra cannot be much like Movie Ra, because Movie Ra seemingly had two Death Gliders, about half a dozen Jaffa, a group of children devoted to him (who were hopefully there as spare hosts as the alternative is very squicky indeed), and a pyramid ship that was literally a pyramid. Maybe he does have legions of armies just off-screen, but he really does seem strangely weak for the guy SG-1 established to be the SUPREME System Lord. He is basically the Stargate equivalent of Robert Baratheon and yet you saw Robert's power reflected in every scene.

There is an assumption he just came to the planet with the idea that he wasn't expecting alot from the locals. Not like he was facing another System Lord. Just a bunch of illerate desert people who doesn't seem to even have bow and arrows.

I kinda viewed his ship like a palace ship and not an actual warship of any kind.

Then again I think Moebius two parter he didn't seem to have a big army on Earth either. So who knows.

Pretty much this. The SG-1 wikis show Ra's ship as a different class of pyramid ship. It's quite likely Ra would be tooling around in his luxury class ship instead of a battle cruiser, especially since he was supreme System Lord and presumably had relative peace. (Not complete peace... flashbacks definitely showed the Goa'uld still fought each other, AND fought Ra.)

Though there's also the fact that Ra's Death Gliders in the movie don't apparently have canopies, and thus probably aren't space-worthy. But maybe the pilots left them open for effect against the locals.

[McAvoy]

Ba'al also would be a older God compared to the others too. If I recall correctly he was actually part of the Jewish pantheon before they went monotheistic. Like he would be 5000 years old. Or around 3000 BC.

Or we could just treat Ba'al as a unique case. Who knows the SG-1 version of Ra may have been similar.l

That's the thing within the series that Ra somehow managed to keep it all together for thousands of years until his death.

But at the same time you could argue that maybe the System Lords were more lucid early on with less use of their magic coffin.

Yeah, SG-1 Ra cannot be much like Movie Ra, because Movie Ra seemingly had two Death Gliders, about half a dozen Jaffa, a group of children devoted to him (who were hopefully there as spare hosts as the alternative is very squicky indeed), and a pyramid ship that was literally a pyramid. Maybe he does have legions of armies just off-screen, but he really does seem strangely weak for the guy SG-1 established to be the SUPREME System Lord. He is basically the Stargate equivalent of Robert Baratheon and yet you saw Robert's power reflected in every scene.

There is an assumption he just came to the planet with the idea that he wasn't expecting alot from the locals. Not like he was facing another System Lord. Just a bunch of illerate desert people who doesn't seem to even have bow and arrows.

I kinda viewed his ship like a palace ship and not an actual warship of any kind.

Then again I think Moebius two parter he didn't seem to have a big army on Earth either. So who knows.

Pretty much this. The SG-1 wikis show Ra's ship as a different class of pyramid ship. It's quite likely Ra would be tooling around in his luxury class ship instead of a battle cruiser, especially since he was supreme System Lord and presumably had relative peace. (Not complete peace... flashbacks definitely showed the Goa'uld still fought each other, AND fought Ra.)

Though there's also the fact that Ra's Death Gliders in the movie don't apparently have canopies, and thus probably aren't space-worthy. But maybe the pilots left them open for effect against the locals.

Also that his 'Jaffa' were only two. Though he did have pilots. And he went with a bunch of children followers too.

You could reconn it has him just bringing his First Prime and the Second and some fighter pilots with him. Along with his followers. The purpose of this kids I leave to the imagination.

That's the way I view it SG-1 style.

[Madner Kami]

Though there's also the fact that Ra's Death Gliders in the movie don't apparently have canopies, and thus probably aren't space-worthy. But maybe the pilots left them open for effect against the locals.

As far as I am aware, they were not open topped vehicles. Some of the toy-models were, that much I know.

Ah, here. I finally found a picture of one of the movie props:



It shows a closed cockpit variant on the right, doesn't it. But then again, there's this allegedly original prop:



Hm...

[Swiftbow]

As far as I am aware, they were not open topped vehicles. Some of the toy-models were, that much I know.

Ah, here. I finally found a picture of one of the movie props:



It shows a closed cockpit variant on the right, doesn't it. But then again, there's this allegedly original prop:



Hm...

I was looking for a screen grab of one of gliders in flight with a pilot close-up, but can't find one. I may have to put the movie in a screencap it myself. My memory is them flying open-top, but that also doesn't mean there isn't a canopy at all. The movie prop model you found looks like there is one that slides back into the ship.

Also that his 'Jaffa' were only two. Though he did have pilots. And he went with a bunch of children followers too.

You could reconn it has him just bringing his First Prime and the Second and some fighter pilots with him. Along with his followers. The purpose of this kids I leave to the imagination.

That's the way I view it SG-1 style.

The kids can be explained as human servants... and potential replacement hosts. Ra had weird preferences in hosts. Probably best not to expand on that.

There were more than 2 Jaffa... (though they also had no symbiote pouches in the movie). The pilots are Jaffa, for one. I need to rewatch it. The idea in the movie, of course, was that each "Jaffa" was actually impersonating a specific Egyptian god. Anubis and Horus off the top of my head. I think there were some more that appeared.

Obviously the show retconned who they were, and explained that Ra used Horus and Jackal guards together because of his status as Supreme System Lord. They did a pretty good job making it work, even if the biggest retcon was actually moving Abydos to be the closest to Earth, instead of the opposite end of the universe.

One question... does the name Abydos EVER show up in the movie? I don't recall it, but I've noticed that the Emmerich book series (based on the movie) uses the same name. So maybe it was in the script but not onscreen?

[clearspira]

I actually think that Ra's collection of children makes perfect sense. A) They are immediately on hand as replacement hosts and B) they have been raised and brainwashed to the point that they are willing to take a bullet for him. And that makes them willing hosts and thus easier to control and easier to "live" with. No Sha're stealing his child thing is happening here.

If you want some brain bleach though, there are male and female children there. Assuming the boys are for him, the girls are probably for his queen. Meaning that Ra has been raising his wife from birth.