CrypticMirror wrote:So far every episode I loved he's hated and every episode I hated he's loved. I am the anti-Chuck.
Let he who is without sin?
Profit & Lace?
Threshold?
I did kinda like Threshold in a so bad its good kinda way, you can't top the crazy of salamander sex. That is good crazy. It was a great Red Dwarf episode.
I think I had managed to block P&L out of my memory though. I suppose some things are so horrible that even opposites can unite in order to hate them.
I never found that episode all that bad, honestly. On the scale of whats normally bad Trek, a lame Vacation story doesn't even blip next to juggernauts such as Dear Doctor, or Tattoo.
I never found that episode all that bad, honestly. On the scale of whats normally bad Trek, a lame Vacation story doesn't even blip next to juggernauts such as Dear Doctor, or Tattoo.
I agree with you there, I despise the offensive and insensitive episodes of Trek, Code of Honor is one of the worst and most disrespectful things I've ever seen and both The Last Outpost and The Neutral Zone feel like they insult all of humanity in that they lazily depict offensive, straw man anthropomorphic representations of cultures and ideologies in a way that makes the racist or propagandist cartoons and comics of the early twentieth century look subtle.
"I am to liquor what the Crocodile Hunter is to Alligators." - Afroman
I never found that episode all that bad, honestly. On the scale of whats normally bad Trek, a lame Vacation story doesn't even blip next to juggernauts such as Dear Doctor, or Tattoo.
Let He Who is Without Sin's worst sin is that it is boring. If you like 90s sitcoms where boyfriend and girlfriend have wacky hijinks before ultimately making up at the end, while the beta couple do their thing, and the cast's lovable lech does lovable leching, there might be something in it for you, but other than it brings nothing to the table. It is a Friends vacation episode plot stretched out a bit. It would take so few tweaks to turn this into a bonafide Friends script and just have Worf and Jadzia yell at each other that they were "On a Break!!!".
SlackerinDeNile wrote:
I agree with you there, I despise the offensive and insensitive episodes of Trek, Code of Honor is one of the worst and most disrespectful things
I argue Angel One is worse then Code of Honor. Angel One from the first word on the page was an offensive idiot plot that slogged. Code of Honor was only as bad as it was because of a racist director. If it had been casted like any other Backwoods but has something we need planet, it would have been just another "Kowtow to these dickheads because we need something they have" Episode.
SlackerinDeNile wrote:
I agree with you there, I despise the offensive and insensitive episodes of Trek, Code of Honor is one of the worst and most disrespectful things
I argue Angel One is worse then Code of Honor. Angel One from the first word on the page was an offensive idiot plot that slogged. Code of Honor was only as bad as it was because of a racist director. If it had been casted like any other Backwoods but has something we need planet, it would have been just another "Kowtow to these dickheads because we need something they have" Episode.
I agree; as insulting as Code of Honor is (incredibly so), it's not QUITE as painful to sit through as Angel One (or, possibly, Outrageous Okona, but the only thing Okona was intolerably offensive toward is good comedy). Most of what's bad about Code of Honor is baked into the behind-the-scenes, on Angel One it's blatantly thrown into the script, too.
SlackerinDeNile wrote:
I agree with you there, I despise the offensive and insensitive episodes of Trek, Code of Honor is one of the worst and most disrespectful things
I argue Angel One is worse then Code of Honor. Angel One from the first word on the page was an offensive idiot plot that slogged. Code of Honor was only as bad as it was because of a racist director. If it had been casted like any other Backwoods but has something we need planet, it would have been just another "Kowtow to these dickheads because we need something they have" Episode.
How do we know the director was a racist instead of just insensitive? Or it was just a badly made episode?
will wheaten wrote a review of that episode a long time ago, saying the following
Behind the Scenes Memory: The sad truth is that I don't recall much of anything about this episode, other than how unhappy everyone was to be doing it. In fact, until I watched it for the first time in twenty-one years for this review, I'd completely forgotten that I was even in it.
I've read that the Ligonians were not explicitly described as entirely African American in the script, but were cast that way at the behest of director Russ Mayberry, who apparently went on to be so offensively racist and treated the actors so poorly that Gene fired him before the episode was completed and handed the directing responsibilities over to then – First AD Les Landau. [Citation Needed] (Ironically, Mayberry went on to direct quite a few episodes of "In the Heat of the Night," which proves either that he learned something from this experience or that he's really good at directing stories about racists.)
The Bottom Line: Code of Honor is not an especially good episode, but it's not as overtly racist as I recalled. I mean, it's certainly not as racist as "Angel One" is sexist, and if the Ligonians hadn't been arbitrarily determined to be entirely African American, it wouldn't have even been an issue. (Although someone definitely owes the Sung dynasty an apology.)
not having anything to do with anything, there's also this little gem
Picard says, "Are you out of your fucking mind? My chief of security got kidnapped and taken down to the planet and we haven't heard from her in over a day, you idiot! Of all the times in the world to drag your annoying little wunderkind up here, you picked now? What are you smoking, and why didn't you bring me any? Get out of here, and take Mary Sue with you!"
Nah, I'm just kidding. He invites Wesley to sit at ops. Next to Geordi. In the middle of a major crisis.
My god, a lot of the hate mail I used to get suddenly makes a whole lot of sense. I have never been more grateful that there wasn't liveblogging in 1987 as I am right now.
