VOY: Someone To Watch Over Me

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Here's my feelings on the subject. A good person worries if the "hey, I know you" feeling is racism for minorities. A good person worries if he is going to hell for his sins. A good person questions his worth. A good person questions if his flirting is pushing it too far into the realm of unwanted harassment. Just my two cents.
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Yukaphile wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:57 am I mean, to me, some white people look the same, generic, not just ethnic minorities. I felt that when I first saw Enterprise. What does that say about me?
Not a lot. Some people are better with faces than others full stop. Even the "they all look the same" thing is possibly not racist, although it can easily be turned into a racist attitude. People are naturally the most familiar with the differences in appearance of the people they grow up around, so it's not surprising that it's harder to see the differences in other groups that you've not seen lots of every day since you were born (the extreme case being close family still being able to tell apart identical twins when no-one else can). Racism only gets involved when someone starts saying "yeah, they pretty much are all the same, just one mass" rather than recognising that it's just their own limitations.
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clearspira wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:41 am
CrocodileMD wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:44 am
cloudkitt wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:36 am You're still willfully missing the point. He's not assuring *us* he's not racist.
And the point is?

I also read his reply. His reply makes it seem much more reasonable. However, I did go back and watch the clip again and I didn't get the sense it was a commentary on overly sensitive white people or virtue signaling.
Everyone else but you realised what he was getting at.
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CrocodileMD wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:17 pm
clearspira wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:41 am
CrocodileMD wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:44 am
cloudkitt wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:36 am You're still willfully missing the point. He's not assuring *us* he's not racist.
And the point is?

I also read his reply. His reply makes it seem much more reasonable. However, I did go back and watch the clip again and I didn't get the sense it was a commentary on overly sensitive white people or virtue signaling.
Everyone else but you realised what he was getting at.
Make sure to keep doing your stretches when you pat yourself on the back. You don't want to get a repetitive stress injury.
If that is the interpretation you want to take to make yourself feel better then fine. Makes no odds to me.
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You know, I really don't get why this episode is titled "Somebody to Watch Over Me". =S
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Welcome to 2018, where being too sensitive is insensitive. :)

SFDebris for once scored an episode higher than I would have. There was some nice character stuff, which he might have been hungrier for in Voyager,and I can't blame him for that. Maybe I focused too much on the ambassador as what I thought was the main plot.

It's interesting that the doctor is not just an artificial sapient life form but an artificial human. He finds attractive what we'd find attractive (generally, according the American 90s standards). Which might help take care of possible objections that the doctor might technically be underage, since he obviously has the faculties of a mature adult, even if his run-time at this point is only a few years old. That's probably overthinking things... so I get some credit on my nerd card there.

And I think maybe Seven's not wanting to forgive her own romantic foibles parallels her not forgiving the doctor. Both involved unintentionally hurting someone, but, Seven being Seven, she wants perfection.
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Darth Wedgius wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:26 pm Welcome to 2018, where being too sensitive is insensitive. :)

SFDebris for once scored an episode higher than I would have. There was some nice character stuff, which he might have been hungrier for in Voyager,and I can't blame him for that. Maybe I focused too much on the ambassador as what I thought was the main plot.

It's interesting that the doctor is not just an artificial sapient life form but an artificial human. He finds attractive what we'd find attractive (generally, according the American 90s standards). Which might help take care of possible objections that the doctor might technically be underage, since he obviously has the faculties of a mature adult, even if his run-time at this point is only a few years old. That's probably overthinking things... so I get some credit on my nerd card there.

And I think maybe Seven's not wanting to forgive her own romantic foibles parallels her not forgiving the doctor. Both involved unintentionally hurting someone, but, Seven being Seven, she wants perfection.
It was pretty funny when Kim tried to worm his way onto Seven's dating list despite the fact that she had once offered herself to him and he ran away screaming.
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The Totally Spies thing really is gold, given Kim's psychosexual complications and how that cartoon was basically just a vehicle for fetish fuel.
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Again, Alex. I had a yuuuuuuuuuuge crush on her as a kid. :D
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clearspira wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:56 pm
Darth Wedgius wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:26 pm Welcome to 2018, where being too sensitive is insensitive. :)

SFDebris for once scored an episode higher than I would have. There was some nice character stuff, which he might have been hungrier for in Voyager,and I can't blame him for that. Maybe I focused too much on the ambassador as what I thought was the main plot.

It's interesting that the doctor is not just an artificial sapient life form but an artificial human. He finds attractive what we'd find attractive (generally, according the American 90s standards). Which might help take care of possible objections that the doctor might technically be underage, since he obviously has the faculties of a mature adult, even if his run-time at this point is only a few years old. That's probably overthinking things... so I get some credit on my nerd card there.

And I think maybe Seven's not wanting to forgive her own romantic foibles parallels her not forgiving the doctor. Both involved unintentionally hurting someone, but, Seven being Seven, she wants perfection.
It was pretty funny when Kim tried to worm his way onto Seven's dating list despite the fact that she had once offered herself to him and he ran away screaming.
Wasn't that just riffed by Chuck?
..What mirror universe?
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