DS9: Business as Usual

[pilight]

Chuck confuses "debtors" and "creditors". But later in the review he gets it right!

[Yukaphile]

Came back to say I disagree with Chuck. A gun is not neutral, it's just as lethal with intent as sarin gas is. It was built with the sole purpose to maim or to murder, and even with the best of reasons and even if it's doing so to truly awful people, it's still as a byproduct of human nature, our endless conflicts and lust for war.

[Alinis]

Guns like spears, crossbows, slings, bows and arrows and so forth have had and do have good uses outside of war or murdering people as they have been used as tools for hunting for food or controlling dangerous pests like invasive species though.

[Yukaphile]

I've seen a gun erroneously compared to a hammer before, and it's a false equivalency. A hammer or any of those weapons cannot kill dozens or hundreds of people within minutes in a single hand.

[clearspira]

I'm British, and hands down I would hate to have gun culture the likes of the US. I am very happy with the fact that only responsible, trained people are allowed to use guns. I say this because of what I am going to say next: its the person that kills, not the gun. Left on its own a gun is 100% harmless.

[Yukaphile]

Perhaps, but then the same is true for any other weapon when it's not being used. The same argument can be made for a nuclear bomb, which has no other intent but to murder millions of lives in a single blast. It's just I find Chuck making a distinction between sarin gas and a gun to be a bit of a mistaken assumption. If he wants to say a gun is neutral, then so is sarin gas. After all, it will kill man, woman, and child regardless of political or religious backgrounds, whether they've sinned or not. That's kind of fair, when you think about it. In a natural way, that is. The same way we're all equal in death, rich and poor, young and old, doesn't matter.

[SuccubusYuri]

I do have to say the sci-fi elements of this episode are what tingle me most. It's such a clever use of the worldbuilding that it makes me jealous I wasn't the one to think of it, the whole holographic weapon shop. It's such a minor thing but it feels strangely...creative, I guess.

[Steve]

I do have to say the sci-fi elements of this episode are what tingle me most. It's such a clever use of the worldbuilding that it makes me jealous I wasn't the one to think of it, the whole holographic weapon shop. It's such a minor thing but it feels strangely...creative, I guess.

Especially because it was also used as a loophole in the law.

[SFDebris]

Perhaps, but then the same is true for any other weapon when it's not being used. The same argument can be made for a nuclear bomb, which has no other intent but to murder millions of lives in a single blast. It's just I find Chuck making a distinction between sarin gas and a gun to be a bit of a mistaken assumption. If he wants to say a gun is neutral, then so is sarin gas. After all, it will kill man, woman, and child regardless of political or religious backgrounds, whether they've sinned or not. That's kind of fair, when you think about it. In a natural way, that is. The same way we're all equal in death, rich and poor, young and old, doesn't matter.

Perhaps you'd like to make a couple dozen threads on the subject.

[Admiral X]

Came back to say I disagree with Chuck. A gun is not neutral, it's just as lethal with intent as sarin gas is. It was built with the sole purpose to maim or to murder, and even with the best of reasons and even if it's doing so to truly awful people, it's still as a byproduct of human nature, our endless conflicts and lust for war.

A gun is just an inanimate object, dude.