Zardoz

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Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:49 am
I fail to see how that proves that American exceptionalism is just a variation on British exceptionalism.
I didn't state that to prove such a connection, it was to answer your question about how their interests aligned before WWII.

When it comes to the exceptionalism matter, one just has to look at Whiggish Historiography to see the connection as it presumes that all of history has been working towards an ideal, an ideal which happens to be everything the British system is.

Americans shake their head at that and then say "Silly English! No, sorry, but we're the end development of all of human history". One can see that expressed in was like Star Treks Federation and its fundamentally idealistic American sentiments.

In the end the Brits, and most of all the English, are a very arrogant lot. I say that as someone not simply of British descent, but from a family that kept the old cultural flames burning bright. It's a very annoying thing about us, but it's also the reason the thing behind their historically strong conviction to get things done, something which Americans then took up and continued.

I don't know how much of that is still alive in the British today, but I'm happy to see that still going, if faded, in Americans as nothing can be done without conviction, even if it does wind up a mistake.
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Funny thing is if I ever got to meet Connery, I could easily not mention Bond. He's played many amazing roles from the Untouchables to Indiana Jones to Hunt for Red October. If he was out to diversify his filmography, he succeeded in my opinion. Which brings to a film I'm surprised Chuck didn't mention, Outland (1981). It was a sci-fi recreation of the film 'High Noon' and starred Connery. Hope Chuck considers that one in the future.
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Beastro wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:07 am
Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:49 am
I fail to see how that proves that American exceptionalism is just a variation on British exceptionalism.
I didn't state that to prove such a connection, it was to answer your question about how their interests aligned before WWII.

When it comes to the exceptionalism matter, one just has to look at Whiggish Historiography to see the connection as it presumes that all of history has been working towards an ideal, an ideal which happens to be everything the British system is.

Americans shake their head at that and then say "Silly English! No, sorry, but we're the end development of all of human history". One can see that expressed in was like Star Treks Federation and its fundamentally idealistic American sentiments.

In the end the Brits, and most of all the English, are a very arrogant lot. I say that as someone not simply of British descent, but from a family that kept the old cultural flames burning bright. It's a very annoying thing about us, but it's also the reason the thing behind their historically strong conviction to get things done, something which Americans then took up and continued.

I don't know how much of that is still alive in the British today, but I'm happy to see that still going, if faded, in Americans as nothing can be done without conviction, even if it does wind up a mistake.
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Beastro wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:07 am
In the end the Brits, and most of all the English, are a very arrogant lot. I say that as someone not simply of British descent, but from a family that kept the old cultural flames burning bright. It's a very annoying thing about us, but it's also the reason the thing behind their historically strong conviction to get things done, something which Americans then took up and continued.

I don't know how much of that is still alive in the British today, but I'm happy to see that still going, if faded, in Americans as nothing can be done without conviction, even if it does wind up a mistake.
I wouldn't say we're arrogant. Oh some are, the same's true everywhere, but mostly that seems like a stereotypical portrayal of the past.

As for culture, I think the common language (which also helps increase cross-culture exposure and hence familiarity) means we're less aware of the differences than is the case with others.
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To morn the death of famed actor Sean Connery, don't watch the James Bond movies (a part he was afraid to be typecast in) instead watch the movie he starred in specifically to avoid being typecast.... "ZARDOZ!"
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I wished I'd requested Darby O'Gill and the Little People, I rewatched it recently on Disney Plus and it isn't anything like as bad as I remembered. If you want to watch Connery in a fun non-Bond role, I recommend that.
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