Video's moving to VIMEO, anyone know anything?

[Mecha82]

I can image corporations trying to get they tentacles firmly to other platforms than just Youtube in order to block and remove content that includes they copyrighted material. Something that hurts content creators like Chuck.

[Senko]

And CBS is not Netflix, dude.

I know just pointing out that their actions are reducing viewing of their show rather than the opposite. Though admitedly as I already pay for Netflix and Stan I'd be unlikely to add 10 all access (Australia's version of CBS) at the moment.

[Yukaphile]

Well, great. Down with the greedy elite!

[Thebestoftherest]

... and they expect us to pay for their new streaming service?

I mean, Season 1 already burned lots of bridges with me and other fans. Season 2, might be a lot better, and Season 3 could be the moment it all turns around like with TNG. That said, if I ever check it out, I am PIRATING it. Not paying them a damned penny.

Don't say that out loud do you want to anger the corporate overlords.

[Yukaphile]

They have spies everywhere. This whole forum could be bugged.

[Senko]

They have spies everywhere. This whole forum could be bugged.

Good maybe if they hear it from people they'll stop taking down things like this.

Honestly I do think they generate more viewing of the original material. People wander by a review, see something they like or are curious about and check out the source (both the content creator and the original show). There's several shows out there like MLP, Cheeky Angel or Aggretsuko (not sure I'm spelling that one right) where it was content created by someone else (a review), a fanfic crossover and forum posts respectively that made me take a look at them in the first place and keep watching the whole thing because I liked what I saw. Shut it down and get it removed and you reduce the things out there to draw people's attention to your creation and annoy people who don't like that kind of behaviour so they avoid it. I'll probably watch some more star trek in the future (TNG especially) but I wouldn't without these reviews as the few times in the past I took a look I generally found it to be preachy/inconsistent (Treeiy just wants some water we can negotiate . . . where's my phaser?) without having my interest peaked by these reviews, reviews they're taking down.

Anyway to misquote the site creator that's just my opinion.

[PapaPalpatine]

Good maybe if they hear it from people they'll stop taking down things like this.

Don't count on it, CBS is run by dickless morons.

[Durandal_1707]

Video's what moving to Vimeo?

[AllanO]

I am betting no human being looked at Chuck's video and decided they were copyright infringing and needed to be taken down, rather it was our new lords the algorithms, fear and tremble at them as they trawl through untold hours of video. Sadly I suspect no human being can be bothered to actually check on much less make a decision about the videos.

I am guessing the problem is not that the copyright holders care about people doing reviews with short clips in them, it's that they want to stop people just outright hosting pirated whole episodes and so on. They copyright protection works by th algorithms seeking out any bits and pieces, if you allowed an exception (ie you had the robots not report) videos with the material because they are "reviews" pirates would just upload an entire episode in chunks over multiple videos interlaced with an occasionally bit unrelated people talking and call it a review and the robot would ignore it. So big media companies and services like Youtube, Vimeo etc. are happier to be over broad hit everyone by letting the algorithms sort it out, rather than have to figure out some complicated system to recognize genuine reviews and the like absent the law or a really compelling business case forcing them to.

Just a note while Hulu and Netflix are not CBS, they pay CBS for any Star Trek stuff they show. I am not sure if they pay any spot royalties for each viewer, but there is going to be an indirect effect on viewership in terms of Netflix and Hulu deciding to keep buying access to the shows and how much they are willing to pay. So by supporting official releases you are probably helping the original publisher at least indirectly and possibly directly also.

[Kendrakirai]

Just as a note, Hulu was, at least, partly co-owned by CBS, unless I’m mistaken? It was a collaborative thing between several networks to combat Netflix with minimal risk, that’s part of the reason they insisted on still showing ads even though it was a premium subscription streaming service, because it was networks and they only know of selling ad space.