Beast Wars: Possession

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J!! wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:22 pm That's thinking too small, he should try to possess the body of the original Megatron. Or better yet, the original Optimus.
I dunno, maybe he'd grab Omega Supreme if that was an option, but if he's stuck in a standard macromaster sized Cybertronian, I think Starscream is too much of a preening narcissist to take any form other than his own if given the option.
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J!! wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:22 pm That's thinking too small, he should try to possess the body of the original Megatron. Or better yet, the original Optimus.
Seeing as both are in stasis lock, he'd just possess a body that doesn't work.
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Ghilz wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:50 am
PapaPalpatine wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:26 pm I personally find it some what odd the Beast Wars Megatron knew nothing of Starscream; you'd think Galvatron or whoever was in charge of the Decepticon faction would at least warn their command officers about the back-stabbing traitor with the indestructible spark, just in case he ever showed up again.
Implying G1 Galvatron/Megatron can learn from his mistake or, ya know, plan?
RobbyB1982 wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:26 am Woo, the first of the Beast Wars episodes I donated for! (the other 7 were all end of season 2 and season 3 material, so who knows when we'll get to those.)

As requested by... Emperor Kevin?

Hrm. Not sure how to feel about that.

Fun review though, that aside.
The Emperor bit is coz I requested it via my montly Patreon requests.
CrypticMirror wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:28 pm The robot who turns into a wolf would be a Weirdwolf. See: https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Weirdwolf_(G1)
or Max-B from Beast Wars 2

Or Wolfgang
Or Noble (though he shifts between wolf-humanoid and an eyeless wyvern).

One thing that confused me about this episode, however, is Tarantulas's statement that their base is "undefended." Yet, this episode aired after the introduction of Inferno, and he's no where to be seen here. My only thought is that it was written and intended to air before Inferno's introduction, but that's not how things turned out.
PapaPalpatine wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:26 pm I personally find it some what odd the Beast Wars Megatron knew nothing of Starscream; you'd think Galvatron or whoever was in charge of the Decepticon faction would at least warn their command officers about the back-stabbing traitor with the indestructible spark, just in case he ever showed up again.
As Chuck says, Megatron has a "This is a bunch of scrap" look on his face when Starscream finishes his (bullshit) story. And consider Megatron's comment to Scorponok after they capture the Axalon:
BW Megatron wrote:We are pleased with Starscream's performance, so far. But watch him, carefully.
To me, that indicates Megatron was somewhat aware of Starscream's history, and, schemer that he is, he decided to exploit Starscream's scheme for as long as he could. His later rage could be just him venting.
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Starscream is often a short-sighted idiot, but he's actually intelligent (no idiots can be smart, really). I think he has terrible impulse control which just messes him over in whatever iteration of the show we see.
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Eh, I've got nothing new to add other than to agree with Chucks opinion about this episode. At the time it aired it was awesome to finally have this series connection to G1 confirmed and acknowledged. But now looking back at the episode as a whole it ended up being largely forgettable. There's really wrong with the episode, but there's nothing really good about it either.
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Robovski wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:29 am Starscream is often a short-sighted idiot, but he's actually intelligent (no idiots can be smart, really). I think he has terrible impulse control which just messes him over in whatever iteration of the show we see.
It's an example showing that intelligence and wisdom are two different things.
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I just always imagine "man what if this had been the start of a whole different arc?"

Megs: See, Starscream? You're as pitiful as your file indicated you would be. And just as bad a liar, especially the bit about your "death".
Starscream: Ha...no Megatron...I only told half a lie.
Megs: Not my concern *aims blaster*
Starscream: He'll be coming now...

Being less armchairy, I also feel Starscream's presence in a simple story is entirely too redundant with the cast. Bad enough that "the Starscream role" has now been split between Tarantulus and Terrorsaur (his endless treachery and endless ambition), but then you have Black Arachnia and it all starts to blur, I feel. Something that was more personal, like a lone character or two encountering his ghost-spark, might have worked better considering the position in the series.
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I mean, all Predacons are Starscreams at heart. Given what we see when Rhinox is reprogrammed into a Predacon, trying to seize power at the slightest opportunity is just how they're built. The only Predacons who have anything resembling actual loyalty are Scorponok (who often acts like a dumb dog at his master Megatron's heels), Inferno (who's insane), and Waspinator (who's probably just all too aware how horribly trying to overthrow Megatron would go for him).
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You forgot Dinobot who is able to subordinate himself to someone when he feels they're capable, as he did with not just Primal but Megatron before the crash revealed what he thought was incompetence on his part.
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So in this episode, is Scorponok the only decepticon loyal to Megatron?
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