DS9 - The House of Quark

[Madner Kami]

I find that rather funny, given an "Engländer" is also a(n adjustable) spanner in the german language.

Not catching the irony on this end.

"Spanner", in English English is a colloquial insult for a useless dimwit. So Engländers are a bunch of Engländers over Brexit.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I find that rather funny, given an "Engländer" is also a(n adjustable) spanner in the german language.

Not catching the irony on this end.

"Spanner", in English English is a colloquial insult for a useless dimwit. So Engländers are a bunch of Engländers over Brexit.

Well I definitely get the irony there, but Mander was talking about an adjustable wrench, I believe.

I find that rather funny, given an "Engländer" is also a(n adjustable) spanner in the german language.

Not catching the irony on this end.

"Spanner", in English English is a colloquial insult for a useless dimwit. So Engländers are a bunch of Engländers over Brexit.

So, like a triple entendre?

[Madner Kami]

I find that rather funny, given an "Engländer" is also a(n adjustable) spanner in the german language.

Not catching the irony on this end.

"Spanner", in English English is a colloquial insult for a useless dimwit. So Engländers are a bunch of Engländers over Brexit.

Well I definitely get the irony there, but Mander was talking about an adjustable wrench, I believe.

I find that rather funny, given an "Engländer" is also a(n adjustable) spanner in the german language.

Not catching the irony on this end.

"Spanner", in English English is a colloquial insult for a useless dimwit. So Engländers are a bunch of Engländers over Brexit.

So, like a triple entendre?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

So then why bring up the adjustable part?

[Madner Kami]

So then why bring up the adjustable part?

Because an "Engländer" in German, if we talk about the tool, is specifically an adjustable spanner, not just a spanner in general.

[Riedquat]

I find that rather funny, given an "Engländer" is also a(n adjustable) spanner in the german language.

Not catching the irony on this end.

"Spanner", in English English is a colloquial insult for a useless dimwit. So Engländers are a bunch of Engländers over Brexit.

Side-splitting

[G-Man]

I have often wondered how such 19th century sexism survived into the 24th century. Women are not allowed a seat on the council? They are not allowed to even run a House? These women are essentially Amazons! They should make the Suffragettes look like children in the havoc they would cause trying to get equal rights. Why have these warrior women not gone to war against the men? And unlike human women in the 19th century, Klingon women are allowed to serve as soldiers; they have guns and bombs and Bat'Leths and are crewing warships.

At least with the Ferengi women they are trapped naked indoors with zero access to influence and firearms. That is not true with Klingon women. Sorry but Duras sisters aside they really do not seem to be making all that much of an effort despite having plenty of opportunity.

Why sexism survived? Because the universe was created by Gene "no women captain's" Roddenberry. Seriously in my mind his supposed forward thinking progressivism amounts to having access to as many sexual partners as possible in as mant combinations as possible or as the vulcans say "Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations"

If he takes good care his kids and gives back to society...

What is inherently unprogressive about sleeping around?

You guys impeached Clinton for it.

He didn't ask "what is wrong with sleeping around." He asked what was inherently unprogressive about it. Even if we were to argue that Clinton's impeachment were for sex, it was not progressive people who impeached him.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I have often wondered how such 19th century sexism survived into the 24th century. Women are not allowed a seat on the council? They are not allowed to even run a House? These women are essentially Amazons! They should make the Suffragettes look like children in the havoc they would cause trying to get equal rights. Why have these warrior women not gone to war against the men? And unlike human women in the 19th century, Klingon women are allowed to serve as soldiers; they have guns and bombs and Bat'Leths and are crewing warships.

At least with the Ferengi women they are trapped naked indoors with zero access to influence and firearms. That is not true with Klingon women. Sorry but Duras sisters aside they really do not seem to be making all that much of an effort despite having plenty of opportunity.

Why sexism survived? Because the universe was created by Gene "no women captain's" Roddenberry. Seriously in my mind his supposed forward thinking progressivism amounts to having access to as many sexual partners as possible in as mant combinations as possible or as the vulcans say "Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations"

If he takes good care his kids and gives back to society...

What is inherently unprogressive about sleeping around?

You guys impeached Clinton for it.

He didn't ask "what is wrong with sleeping around." He asked what was inherently unprogressive about it. Even if we were to argue that Clinton's impeachment were for sex, it was not progressive people who impeached him.

Didn't see Slash denying it.

[Beastro]

Angleterre for the whole of the UK? That annoys me a bit (and would probably do a lot more if I wasn't English!) Unlike some of the others it's just plain incorrect, as is using Holland to refer to the whole of The Netherlands.

Incorrect in exactness, but correct in reflecting the predominant hierarchical position each partner has had within their particular union, which in the case of England remains - the rest of the Union is subsidized by England. This is the cause of much resentment and frustration among the English given that they support everyone else without holding a position reflecting that fact. This is worsen by Devolution where the others posses degrees of autonomy that are not given to England, as England is generically looked upon as simply "British" by the Establishment in contrast to the catering done to everyone else's nationalism, since if the center of the Union fails to hold to "Britishishness" it'll be the final nail in the coffin for the Union.

England and Holland have always held that dominant position, even in the case of England being the "junior" partner "under" the personal union of a Scottish monarch like the Stewart's before Union (or the Duke's of Normandy after the Conquest even though they and the Angevins continued to reside in France by preferance for over a century).

It is for much the same reason that countries have exonyms which they derived from those sub-groups they'd interacted with the most. In the case of France, Germany is Allemange, reflecting which Germans historically shared a border the most with the Franks, that being the Aiemanni. Others, like the Estonians, refer to Germany as Saksamaa - land of the Saxons given the predominant position the Saxons played in the Ostsiedlung similar to the Irish nickname for the English, Sassenach, despite the origins of the nickname coming from the invasion of Ireland by Normans in the 11th Century which weren't Anglo-Saxons at all, but were looked on as synonymous to them by the Irish.

Another is Russia being synonymous with the Soviet Union during the Cold War, people of the Union being called Russians in the West and not Soviets. It's a source of great annoyance to a few pedantic Cold Warriors I know who will not hesitate to correct anyone who does that.

That doesn't match the anger they get from seeing people saying things like "the atomic bomb detonated" which sets them off correcting that nuclear weapons "initiate" a chain reaction. "Detonate" or "explosion" imply a chemical reaction, something which nuclear weapons do not have beyond their primer.