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Re: A Look at Archer

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:05 am
by Riedquat
Enterprising wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:35 am
They were also instructed by the studio to get in any “favour of the month” rock band they could find, to play a song in the Enterprise’s mess hall each week. One of the few notes Braga & Berman outright refused to accommodate the studio on, and because they gave so little push back otherwise, the studio eventually accepted it after repeated refusals. (At one point they got threatened with a budget cut if they didn’t do it.)
Ouch! Standing up to that puts them significantly raises my opinion of them!

Re: A Look at Archer

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:34 am
by Marveryn
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:49 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:47 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:53 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:17 am I admit, I liked the fact that Archer had to rob a ship and leave them to die.
I did too. For Star Trek it is really provocative, and shamefully understandable.

I do hold him accountable for that though and I don't believe the show never resolved that issue?
I think the show said he doubled back and never found them again. Which is a nice bit of ambiguity.
Oh shit they could had revisited that hardcore.
one way to do it hard core would had been if they double back only to find the a ghost ship with the entire crew kill.. or turn into zombies.. wait they already did that episode with the vulcan zombie already didn't they.. shut can't use that idea

Re: A Look at Archer

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:50 am
by BridgeConsoleMasher
Marveryn wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:34 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:49 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:47 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:53 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:17 am I admit, I liked the fact that Archer had to rob a ship and leave them to die.
I did too. For Star Trek it is really provocative, and shamefully understandable.

I do hold him accountable for that though and I don't believe the show never resolved that issue?
I think the show said he doubled back and never found them again. Which is a nice bit of ambiguity.
Oh shit they could had revisited that hardcore.
one way to do it hard core would had been if they double back only to find the a ghost ship with the entire crew kill.. or turn into zombies.. wait they already did that episode with the vulcan zombie already didn't they.. shut can't use that idea
No way, they could do another Khan.

Re: A Look at Archer

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:54 am
by Link8909
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:50 am
Marveryn wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:34 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:49 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:47 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:53 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:17 am I admit, I liked the fact that Archer had to rob a ship and leave them to die.
I did too. For Star Trek it is really provocative, and shamefully understandable.

I do hold him accountable for that though and I don't believe the show never resolved that issue?
I think the show said he doubled back and never found them again. Which is a nice bit of ambiguity.
Oh shit they could had revisited that hardcore.
one way to do it hard core would had been if they double back only to find the a ghost ship with the entire crew kill.. or turn into zombies.. wait they already did that episode with the vulcan zombie already didn't they.. shut can't use that idea
No way, they could do another Khan.
No, they tried doing another Khan with Into Darkness and that didn't go over so well.

Re: A Look at Archer

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:43 am
by CharlesPhipps
I think one thing I missed from the STAR TREK: BEYOND review is the fact that Edison is another Khan. He's a guy marooned on a world for decades that gets driven insane by it and blames the Federation. He's a war monger from a past age and seeks a superweapon to turn against his enemies.

I'd argue he's more Khan than Into Darkness' Khan or Nero.

Re: A Look at Archer

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:51 pm
by Thebestoftherest
Who would want to see Dr Pulaski character review, just like this. Trying to justify her bad behavior only for him to just to come clean.

Re: A Look at Archer

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:18 pm
by Link8909
Thebestoftherest wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:51 pm Who would want to see Dr Pulaski character review, just like this. Trying to justify her bad behavior only for him to just to come clean.
That would be interesting, or maybe a Neelix... no, it would just be the title, then Chuck going "No" then credits roll.

Re: A Look at Archer

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:27 pm
by Thebestoftherest
Link8909 wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:18 pm
Thebestoftherest wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:51 pm Who would want to see Dr Pulaski character review, just like this. Trying to justify her bad behavior only for him to just to come clean.
That would be interesting, or maybe a Neelix... no, it would just be the title, then Chuck going "No" then credits roll.
Funny, but there are moments where he could have been something good if they put him on the sides for a few episode and give better writing.

Re: A Look at Archer

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:24 pm
by Link8909
Thebestoftherest wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:27 pm
Link8909 wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:18 pm
Thebestoftherest wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:51 pm Who would want to see Dr Pulaski character review, just like this. Trying to justify her bad behavior only for him to just to come clean.
That would be interesting, or maybe a Neelix... no, it would just be the title, then Chuck going "No" then credits roll.
Funny, but there are moments where he could have been something good if they put him on the sides for a few episode and give better writing.
True, while I don't have the same... reaction to Neelix as Chuck does, I do see his points, honestly how I feel about Archer and Phlox is the same as how Chuck feels about Neelix.

Though I did like his appearance in Star Trek Online's Delta Rising arc, with him leading the Talaxians to a new homeworld, and I love his "Mister Vulcan" reaction to seeing Admiral Tuvok after so many years.

Re: A Look at Archer

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:43 pm
by Thebestoftherest
Link8909 wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:24 pm
Thebestoftherest wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:27 pm
Link8909 wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:18 pm
Thebestoftherest wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:51 pm Who would want to see Dr Pulaski character review, just like this. Trying to justify her bad behavior only for him to just to come clean.
That would be interesting, or maybe a Neelix... no, it would just be the title, then Chuck going "No" then credits roll.
Funny, but there are moments where he could have been something good if they put him on the sides for a few episode and give better writing.
True, while I don't have the same... reaction to Neelix as Chuck does, I do see his points, honestly how I feel about Archer and Phlox is the same as how Chuck feels about Neelix.

Though I did like his appearance in Star Trek Online's Delta Rising arc, with him leading the Talaxians to a new homeworld, and I love his "Mister Vulcan" reaction to seeing Admiral Tuvok after so many years.
Yeah.