TNG - A Matter of Honor

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The only TOS Klingon woman was a damsel (like all TOS women tended to be), then there is the one with the muscles in Star Trek 5 who proved that the original Sulu was very much not gay after he and Chekov sexually harassed her, then there is Chancellor Azetbur (I dunno how to spell it) who apparently did such a bad job that the council ended up MORE sexist after she left it, and now we have these women - who are thirsty for Riker. That's it.

Klingon women have a terrible run in Star Trek. Most of them are there to be sex objects - even the Duras sisters. What could have been a great plot about sexism (again, well done Azetbur) really was not helped by the cleavage armour. (Great idea btw, wearing armour with huge gaps over the heart among a race known for fighting with bladed weapons).

Its stuff like this that I think makes Star Trek a bit hard to defend nowadays as this ''great liberal utopia''. By modern standards its right wing as hell in many places tbh.

Looking back on it, I like that Generations used the Duras sisters.

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The only TOS Klingon woman was a damsel (like all TOS women tended to be), then there is the one with the muscles in Star Trek 5 who proved that the original Sulu was very much not gay after he and Chekov sexually harassed her, then there is Chancellor Azetbur (I dunno how to spell it) who apparently did such a bad job that the council ended up MORE sexist after she left it, and now we have these women - who are thirsty for Riker. That's it.

Klingon women have a terrible run in Star Trek. Most of them are there to be sex objects - even the Duras sisters. What could have been a great plot about sexism (again, well done Azetbur) really was not helped by the cleavage armour. (Great idea btw, wearing armour with huge gaps over the heart among a race known for fighting with bladed weapons).

Its stuff like this that I think makes Star Trek a bit hard to defend nowadays as this ''great liberal utopia''. By modern standards its right wing as hell in many places tbh.

You're forgetting a couple. K'ehleyr, for example, while sadly a fridge burial, was a rather strong character for the two episodes she was in, and presented a feisty Klingon woman that was intelligent and reasonable.

Also, B'elanna Torres, who is one of my favorite characters.

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Here's a fun piece of trivia for you: the Klingon captain is played by Stephen Root.

You're thinking of the two-parter "Unification", which is where Stephen Root played the Klingon captain.

The Klingon captain in "A Matter of Honor" was played by Christopher Collins.

That said, it's nice to see Chuck finally using the remastered TNG footage.

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Here's a fun piece of trivia for you: the Klingon captain is played by Stephen Root.

Hah! Taking away his stapler will be a great dishonor!

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What I don't see is how the Benzite idea of seeing a problem, but not doing anything about it till they've got a solution, wouldn't have been drilled out of them when they hit Starfleet Academy?

This Benzite was an exchange officer, not one who had been through Starfleet academy.

[Nealithi]

Odd. I think I saw this episode twice and both times missed the intro. Thus did not see Mendel arrive or Picard and Riker practicing with the phaser.
My favourite scene was not the dealing with the klingon captain nor the matter of honor for Riker. To me it was the klingon woman saying she would take him to bed. He teased back and she left laughing. And then Riker had a deer in the headlights look. "Wait was she serious?" So klingon women intimidate him a bit.

And I have to agree with many here. Chuck noting many consider this great, but it was average for the series means it was great in and of itself as well.

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His beard does a better job than him.

Burton must be like "Now you're just showing off, John."

Apparently Frakes had a bad back injury which is what forces him to sit like that.

[Thebestoftherest]

REally, that makes it harder to laugh at him for sitting weird.

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and now we have these women - who are thirsty for Riker. That's it.

I'm pretty sure they were just fuckin with him. And these ones didn't have the boob armor, I thought that was specifically a Duras sisters thing.

[Thebestoftherest]

Maybe it is.