Superman V.S The Elite

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Robovski wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:13 am Superman has options other than death to deal with villains who cannot be controlled by society or normal means such as imprisonment. Banishing someone to a world without sentient life or to the Phantom Zone are options; Superman could take a petition from a legal authority to remove public menaces at this level without killing anyone.
isn't the Phantom Zone a fate worse then death and thus, killing villains thrown in there would actually be kinder? like in the first two movies, prisoners in the zone where completely mobile in a two dimensional prison, that sounds ten times worse then the Biblical Hell.
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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:52 pm
Robovski wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:13 am Superman has options other than death to deal with villains who cannot be controlled by society or normal means such as imprisonment. Banishing someone to a world without sentient life or to the Phantom Zone are options; Superman could take a petition from a legal authority to remove public menaces at this level without killing anyone.
isn't the Phantom Zone a fate worse then death and thus, killing villains thrown in there would actually be kinder? like in the first two movies, prisoners in the zone where completely mobile in a two dimensional prison, that sounds ten times worse then the Biblical Hell.
Worse than Hell could be a selling point TBH, especially as it is still a no-kill solution. YMMV.
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Y'know, I feel like this review has aged spectacularly poorly. Its hard to look out the window and feel like the world is improving when the economy is collapsing thanks to Covid.
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The economy always recovers. What is important is how people are reacting, and -a few idiots aside- people are wearing masks, social distancing, and helping their neighbours out. People are the important part, money isn't. Money is an illusion anyway. Every western nation has enough of this phantom concept to pay every one of its citizens to stay home, some of them are even doing so. The economic crisis is one created by some of those loud idiots who just happen to be in government, not the virus.
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The economy is on a poor diet pretty much. Or we got like a tapeworm or something.
..What mirror universe?
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Robovski wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:31 am Worse than Hell could be a selling point TBH, especially as it is still a no-kill solution. YMMV.
I dunno, killing is hardly a permanent solution in the DCU.
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When it comes to someone like Atomic Skull, there might be one pragmatic reason not to kill him; it might be too dangerous to kill him, at least in the middle of a crowded city. We're talking about a being who has radiation powers, has the word "Atomic" in his name, and was being used as a nuclear power generator while he was in prison. It's only by the grace of whatever gods the DC universe has that Skull's body didn't go critical mass shortly after Ol' Chester blew his head off, possibly exploding to the tune of several megatons.
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PapaPalpatine wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:06 am When it comes to someone like Atomic Skull, there might be one pragmatic reason not to kill him; it might be too dangerous to kill him, at least in the middle of a crowded city. We're talking about a being who has radiation powers, has the word "Atomic" in his name, and was being used as a nuclear power generator while he was in prison. It's only by the grace of whatever gods the DC universe has that Skull's body didn't go critical mass shortly after Ol' Chester blew his head off, possibly exploding to the tune of several megatons.
Yes but I'm rather sure that that doesn't solve the dilemma of the story. Superman could take AS to space for all the public cares. The issue is whether it's okay to kill, for the sake of the public vs AS.
..What mirror universe?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:21 am
PapaPalpatine wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:06 am When it comes to someone like Atomic Skull, there might be one pragmatic reason not to kill him; it might be too dangerous to kill him, at least in the middle of a crowded city. We're talking about a being who has radiation powers, has the word "Atomic" in his name, and was being used as a nuclear power generator while he was in prison. It's only by the grace of whatever gods the DC universe has that Skull's body didn't go critical mass shortly after Ol' Chester blew his head off, possibly exploding to the tune of several megatons.
Yes but I'm rather sure that that doesn't solve the dilemma of the story. Superman could take AS to space for all the public cares. The issue is whether it's okay to kill, for the sake of the public vs AS.
Perhaps not. I'm just saying that, when you're dealing with a baddy who could easily go ka-boom when he dies, it would be prudent to defer killing him at least until you can lure him to some remote, uninhabited location where the explosion is less likely to cause appalling collateral damage.
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PapaPalpatine wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:58 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:21 am
PapaPalpatine wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:06 am When it comes to someone like Atomic Skull, there might be one pragmatic reason not to kill him; it might be too dangerous to kill him, at least in the middle of a crowded city. We're talking about a being who has radiation powers, has the word "Atomic" in his name, and was being used as a nuclear power generator while he was in prison. It's only by the grace of whatever gods the DC universe has that Skull's body didn't go critical mass shortly after Ol' Chester blew his head off, possibly exploding to the tune of several megatons.
Yes but I'm rather sure that that doesn't solve the dilemma of the story. Superman could take AS to space for all the public cares. The issue is whether it's okay to kill, for the sake of the public vs AS.
Perhaps not. I'm just saying that, when you're dealing with a baddy who could easily go ka-boom when he dies, it would be prudent to defer killing him at least until you can lure him to some remote, uninhabited location where the explosion is less likely to cause appalling collateral damage.
That may be idealistic enough for the Biden administration or something, but this is Superman here.
..What mirror universe?
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