Star Trek: Into Darkness

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It is sadly how our society treats this stuff. As "action" and not the science part of "science-fiction." Hell, Orci even said as much.
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Enterprising wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:47 pm Fine though an actor Cumberbatch is, that wasn't the sort of role suited for him. Think they cast him just because they could, and he was a "name" for box office. Not actually for being the best actor for that part. They were as well making him Gary Mitchell, and going with a variation of how all that played out.
Sounds like you haven't watched SHERLOCK, because that's how he nabbed the role of Khan. In that show he displays a lot of qualities that I think were compatible for the character as depicted in TOS. I didn't actually watch the show until sometime after INTO DARKNESS and once I started I immediately recognized why they cast him as Khan. However, the problem with Khan as portrayed in the film is all in the writing, which not even Montalban could have saved on his best day. Essentially, Cumberbatch was well cast but the filmmakers misused him and the character.
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Yukaphile wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:52 am It is sadly how our society treats this stuff. As "action" and not the science part of "science-fiction." Hell, Orci even said as much.
When was Trek really about the science?
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Karha of Honor wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:00 am
Yukaphile wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:52 am It is sadly how our society treats this stuff. As "action" and not the science part of "science-fiction." Hell, Orci even said as much.
When was Trek really about the science?
Pretty much. As a show it focuses more on social introspection. Part of the appeal of TOS my mom said was that it wasn't about the gadgets being focused on but the characters. They used the scientific stuff only as much as they need to. Technobabble of course though is an aspect of over relying on scientific stuff.
..What mirror universe?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:23 pm
Karha of Honor wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:00 am
Yukaphile wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:52 am It is sadly how our society treats this stuff. As "action" and not the science part of "science-fiction." Hell, Orci even said as much.
When was Trek really about the science?
Pretty much. As a show it focuses more on social introspection. Part of the appeal of TOS my mom said was that it wasn't about the gadgets being focused on but the characters. They used the scientific stuff only as much as they need to. Technobabble of course though is an aspect of over relying on scientific stuff.
So, not about science.
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Karha of Honor wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:03 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:23 pm
Karha of Honor wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:00 am
Yukaphile wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:52 am It is sadly how our society treats this stuff. As "action" and not the science part of "science-fiction." Hell, Orci even said as much.
When was Trek really about the science?
Pretty much. As a show it focuses more on social introspection. Part of the appeal of TOS my mom said was that it wasn't about the gadgets being focused on but the characters. They used the scientific stuff only as much as they need to. Technobabble of course though is an aspect of over relying on scientific stuff.
So, not about science.
Are you repeating yourself on purpose?
..What mirror universe?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:33 pm
Karha of Honor wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:03 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:23 pm
Karha of Honor wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:00 am
Yukaphile wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:52 am It is sadly how our society treats this stuff. As "action" and not the science part of "science-fiction." Hell, Orci even said as much.
When was Trek really about the science?
Pretty much. As a show it focuses more on social introspection. Part of the appeal of TOS my mom said was that it wasn't about the gadgets being focused on but the characters. They used the scientific stuff only as much as they need to. Technobabble of course though is an aspect of over relying on scientific stuff.
So, not about science.
Are you repeating yourself on purpose?
Sometimes i have to do it when dealing with you.
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Karha of Honor wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:19 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:33 pm
Karha of Honor wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:03 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:23 pm
Karha of Honor wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:00 am
Yukaphile wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:52 am It is sadly how our society treats this stuff. As "action" and not the science part of "science-fiction." Hell, Orci even said as much.
When was Trek really about the science?
Pretty much. As a show it focuses more on social introspection. Part of the appeal of TOS my mom said was that it wasn't about the gadgets being focused on but the characters. They used the scientific stuff only as much as they need to. Technobabble of course though is an aspect of over relying on scientific stuff.
So, not about science.
Are you repeating yourself on purpose?
Sometimes i have to do it when dealing with you.
So, yes?
..What mirror universe?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:45 pm
So, yes?
Reach your conclusion.
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Repeating yourself doesn't make your point seem more valid. It just makes you look stupid and arrogant.
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