FlynnTaggart wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:28 am
I'll admit the only reason I've wanted to check of DISCOstick season 2 was Pike, he seems interesting. Some of the side characters seem interesting. The biggest problem with Discovery seems to be be the Discovery elements, atleast seems that way.
I'd have probably checked out season 2 if Control was a more compelling villain honestly. The "bzzt destroy all humans" AI I think has been done to death, its boring (as is the "end of life as we know it" stakes....... again). I think if the villain was compelling, had a reason beyond evil AI it would have interested me. Something different, a reverse Skynet that wants to save lives sorta like the AI from I, Robot movie whether people want to be saved or not, wanting to evolve by merging organics and machines (if they are ripping off Mass Effect on Picard might as well do so on STD), programmed to save the Federation but after them nearly losing to the Klingons deciding the only way to save the Federation was to take over, something beyond "I'm evil because".
Exactly, compared to the Klingons and Gabriel Lorca in the first season, Control really isn't that interesting because we have see this before, and your ideas are more interesting than what we got.
However I do feel that there was more to the artificial lifeforms from another galaxy from Star Trek Picard than just being a rip off of Mass Effect, admittedly I'm not all to familiar with Mass Effect beyond general osmosis, so while people could point out similarities, what I like overall about the artificial lifeforms from another galaxy from Star Trek Picard is that it really wasn't about destroying them.
Basically those artificial lifeforms feared organic life the same way the Zhat Vash and many other people in Star Trek feared artificial life, they see them as monsters, destroyers, and the beacon they left was an SOS for any artificial life that was awakening and was threatened, unfortunately the soon to be Zhat Vash saw this SOS message but couldn't interpret all of it and saw artificial life as monsters and gave into fear, when in reality artificial lifeforms are just as intelligent and as much right to life as any other form of life, but they are also as fearful as the Zhat Vash, it's a cycle of fear, and as Picard said: Fear is an incompetent teacher.
So in the end for Soji and the Androids of Coppelius, it was down to a choice: do they become the very thing that the Zhat Vash hated and fear, and destroy all organic life like they would do to artificial life? Or do they prove to them and the rest of the galaxy that they can be better than what they think they are, be better than they are?
What I love about Star Trek Picards finally is not only did Picard show Soji that she and all artificial life have that choice, but because of him going up to stand in-front of the Romulan fleet, the Starfleet armada once again being the shield to the defenseless that they should be, and Picard's own sacrifice showed her that there are people that will fight for their right to exist, because they are alive and sentient beings who deserve that right, just like Data did.
With all that and potentially tying into the artificial lifeforms that made V'Ger, and that they aren't just monsters but intelligent and sentient beings that are described to be very similar to the Federation, for me personally makes them far more interesting and more than just a rip off of Mass Effect, and far more interesting than Control by a long-shot.