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Re: What is Captain Janeway's biggest mistake?

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:41 am
by BridgeConsoleMasher
I don't think Captain Janeway made any mistakes.

Re: What is Captain Janeway's biggest mistake?

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:37 am
by Yukaphile
You damned sarcastic brat...

Re: What is Captain Janeway's biggest mistake?

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:09 am
by Robovski
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:41 am I don't think Captain Janeway made any mistakes.
It was all intentional.

Re: What is Captain Janeway's biggest mistake?

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:04 am
by BridgeConsoleMasher
Robovski wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:09 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:41 am I don't think Captain Janeway made any mistakes.
It was all intentional.
lol

Re: What is Captain Janeway's biggest mistake?

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:54 am
by Deledrius
Robovski wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:09 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:41 am I don't think Captain Janeway made any mistakes.
It was all intentional.
:lol:

Re: What is Captain Janeway's biggest mistake?

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:19 am
by CharlesPhipps
Not erasing that damned Irish village.

Re: What is Captain Janeway's biggest mistake?

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:39 pm
by Artabax
CharlesPhipps wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:19 am Not erasing that damned Irish village.
That was intentional too. Janeway upheld PD every single time. Genocide is not a Person with good Intentions making a mistake. Genocide is a True Believer deliberately and efficiently applying PD.

Re: What is Captain Janeway's biggest mistake?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:52 am
by Kendrakirai
I haven’t read the last three pages, but, regarding protecting the Ocampa from the Kazon, that was *not* an internal matter, that was an aggressive external and most importantly, *warp-capable* species. An internal matter that they can’t involve themselves in is the Klingon civil war. The Cardassian revolution. The infighting between the Kazon themselves.

Janeway stopped a *warp capable* species from assaulting a (let’s call them) primitive species, using equipment left by another, warp-capable species, after being forced to break the prime directive BY said second species. *She* didn’t break it, the Caretaker did that in a way that was beyond her power to stop.

You may as well say that Harry broke the prime directive when he got sucked up by those people who toss their dead into an asteroid; there was no possibility *not* to.

There’s several examples AFTER Caretaker which are, shall we say *dubious*, with regards to the Prime Directive, but the events of Caretaker are not one of them.

Re: What is Captain Janeway's biggest mistake?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:57 pm
by Yukaphile
Well, we know even if the Cardassians had initially invaded, that the Bajorans were aware of other races, and they also initially welcomed the invasion. At least according to what might be revisionist historians. Possibly. I mean, in our own world, some slave owners thought they were doing a good thing, giving a job to the "heathens." Or that to invade another country is helping them, because we have better technology to give to you! Or, like in the case two decades ago, that because being crushed under Saddam's boot heel is bad, we will invade and remove him. In this case, the Ocampa knew about other species thanks to the Caretaker. And there was no signs that the Ocampa would welcome the invasion of the Kazon.

Re: What is Captain Janeway's biggest mistake?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:29 pm
by Simplicius
Janeway's most egregious mistake was rendering aid to the Borg.