Babylon 5: Epiphanies

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Re: Babylon 5: Epiphanies

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Frustration wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:47 pm
clearspira wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:12 pm I watched a documentary about Christopher Reeves a few months back told from the perspective of those who knew him through his final years and he is on camera gushing about his wife and son, the charity work that he was doing, his patronage to disabled charities, his hopes and dreams for a recovery, and his continued love of acting of which he was still doing right up to his death.
All quite irrelevant to the point I am making, which is what full paraplegics themselves report about how they experience their emotions. Without feedback from the rest of their bodies, their emotions aren't experienced the same way.
But what are these so-called reports you speak of when a full paraplegic is more emotional and frankly more human than most ''able bodied'' people i've met are? I want citations on this.
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Re: Babylon 5: Epiphanies

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Again, how the paralyzed person expresses emotion outwardly is utterly irrelevant to how they experience their emotional states. The issue isn't whether Reeves seemed flat and shallow to you, but whether he seems flat and shallow to himself.

Anger that doesn't raise the blood pressure doesn't feel quite the same.
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I'd argue that if this is indeed the case, then it's simply down to the mind being trapped in an unresponsive body. It's psychological in nature, not physical.
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In this context there isn't a distinction between the two concepts.
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Re: Babylon 5: Epiphanies

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Frustration wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:47 pm
clearspira wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:12 pm I watched a documentary about Christopher Reeves a few months back told from the perspective of those who knew him through his final years and he is on camera gushing about his wife and son, the charity work that he was doing, his patronage to disabled charities, his hopes and dreams for a recovery, and his continued love of acting of which he was still doing right up to his death.
All quite irrelevant to the point I am making, which is what full paraplegics themselves report about how they experience their emotions. Without feedback from the rest of their bodies, their emotions aren't experienced the same way.
Makes perfect sense to me. Body language is a huge part of how a human expresses themselves emotionally. Especially to a poijt where you have to actively train yourself is suppress this while being aware of what you are doing.
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